Uniden - TDMA

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N3KGZ

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Now that GRE is no longer making scanners, we're SOL concerning APCO P25 X2-TDMA and APCO P25 Phase II. I sent Uniden a "Customer Service" question concerning a new radio that will support both. I have asked this question before, when my county changed over to Motorola X2-TDMA last year. From their responses to me, Uniden didn't care about these systems, or that GRE was eating up their potential customers. At that time there were only three localities using this (Government grants) so it wasn't on the grand scale of things. Now, many more jurisdictions are converting and if enough of us ask for the scanners, maybe they'll start to listen. Doubt it though.
 

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Not announcing a new radio does not equal not listening. Uniden's official reply on whether or not such-and-such a radio is in planning or production has always been that they will not make announcements, speculation, discussion, etc, on any item until they are ready to sell said item. The implied timeline has been that we will find out about a new radio about six months ahead of being able to purchase it.
 

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I don't even hear the taxi's anymore, they been moved here in my area to "Nexedge-ENC on the ABEEP LTR system!!!!....

That, if it is the same reasoning as the DC MPD, is a security feature, so you cannot figure out which cabs, or how many cabs, are in your vacinity and whether it is coming to pick you up or not. :D

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.....but as my grandma used to say, "crap in one hand and wish in the other, see which one fills up first".
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Your Grandma must have been cool!

I, too, have been "scanning" since I got a converter (Heathkit, I believe) for the AM car radio that tuned the 154Mhz band (DC Fire/PD, MontgoCo, etc) and could have 2 crystals for frequencies I listened to most, since the late 50's /early 60's.

I have been very true to Uniden, but I could not resist a deal on a PSR800 a couple weeks ago, so..

Dewey, I can now get PG County again!

I am trying to see if the new Maryland F.I.R.S.T. system will work, too, but nothing is transmitting close enough to me yet.

JK:D (Hmmmm, have to change that tag line!)
 
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My first memory of "police scanning" was with a 1942 Zenith Console with AM, short wave and "Police" bands. With the radio becoming more computerized, those of us who "pay attention" are being quietly eased out. JAY911 - "Not announcing a new radio does not equal not listening." You are quite correct, however the sound of silence can sustain ones imagination for only a short time. RACES and ARES serve the community. How many amateurs can afford a specialized single use radio, that costs several thousands of dollars, in order to fill their internal need to serve the public? The intent is to keep the "bad guys" from knowing what the "good guys" are doing. Tyrannical regimes keep information from the common rabble. Technology seems to be on their side.
 

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Dewey, I can now get PG County again!
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JK:D (Hmmmm, have to change that tag line!)

Now I'm really jealous! I miss montioring PG, especially as a PG resident. I heard about a month ago that a friend to both of us was not happy with his 800's performance when it came to monitoring PG. I think it was also due to the typically and easily overloaded front end on GRE's which was giving him more trouble than he wanted. I really really really do wish that Uniden will soon move and add TDMA, but after selling off everything to get the two HPs, I would surely have to get a dog, build him/her a house, and then but an antenna on the dog house, my new home, before I could even begin to explain to the wife that I am now ready for something else just because of TDMA.
 

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the alphabet is making me dizzy reading this. im gonna need a acronym book or something like it. how do you memorize all those letters and what they mean, especially after a six pack waiting on your gear to get here in the mail. is there a book that -decodes- all the static (letter configuration of long writing) in what the @#!$ you all are saying? wiki is cool but hey its hell going back and forth between forum and that. state dept and dept of def have books that define acronyms. do hams?
 

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Very quiet- I guess Uniden doesn't feel any pressure now that it's just them.

Perhaps there is something in the works but they just won't say for sure.

I want/have to believe the delay is either a lack of pressure to release something and/or the real need to address the digital simulcast issues (which is a bigger problem than a lack of a TDMA solution) before it's worth releasing a new radio.
 

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Very quiet- I guess Uniden doesn't feel any pressure now that it's just them.

Perhaps there is something in the works but they just won't say for sure.

Why do you guys keep going on about this when it's been said dozens, if not hundreds of times on this site and elsewhere, that Uniden will not make any mention of a new product until about 6 months prior to its date of release?

That doesn't mean "Uniden doesn't feel any pressure now that it's just them", or that they're not working on anything - it means that anything they are working on is at least 6 months and one day away.

Paul was pressured into acknowledging that an upcoming radio exists because some idiot troll decided to post all over the site and Yahoo groups about it. I for one consider us lucky that we got even that much, and I sympathize with Paul for the grief he gets on this issue day in and day out. There are business reasons and even legal reasons he can't discuss upcoming products. And he's said that many, many times.

Enough with the "is there any news?" and the "guess Uniden doesn't care now that they're the only fish in the sea"/"guess there's nothing coming down the pipe since we haven't heard anything yet". When something is available to be announced, you can be certain that the entire radio community, both RR and Yahoo, will all but explode with details.
 

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Don't count of Uniden producing a scanner that does TDMA. They make scanners that do the dishes rather than decode the new P25 protocol Too bad GRE is gone, they at least made scanners that would do TDMA as they were looking into what's coming down the pipe.
 

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Some of you guys really crack me up with the stuff you post.

If any of you seriously think that Uniden doesn't give a crap about TDMA or future enhancements, then you have no sense of reality. What do you think they did all those years before GRE was a major player in the market? They innovated, and they are responsible for the bulk of features that are taken for granted in modern scanners.

Jay's post sums it all up.
 

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Don't count of Uniden producing a scanner that does TDMA. They make scanners that do the dishes rather than decode the new P25 protocol Too bad GRE is gone, they at least made scanners that would do TDMA as they were looking into what's coming down the pipe.

I would think Uniden is working as quickly as possible to get a scanner out that does TDMA and other digital modes. The new 700 systems are coming on line everyday and in our area many are encrypting, it would be smart to get the scanner on the market before the 700 systems are in full operation, and go encrypted. We as users will have to decide if we want to take the chance to buy it or wait and see if it's going to work in our areas, as far as police communications go, fire and EMS may still be in the clear, and some of them will go encrypted. Time will tell.

We know something is coming. :)
 

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We need DSDAuthor to resurface again and update DSD to decode Phase 2 TDMA. I'm done buying $500 scanners when a $15 dongle and some free software can do the same thing. Best money I ever spent, as I can now monitor the local 700Mhz P25 FDMA simulcast systems we have here any time I want.

And yes... I did go bowling, and had a great time! :D Much more fun than trying to monitor this digital garbage.

-AZ
 

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My apologies for my post however it was not made to try and assume anything. I was just asking because I know that sometimes people hear things from different sources. I figured I would just ask here rather than make a new thread to see if maybe I missed something at some point. I don't get on here much as it is.

Jay911 mentioned a Paul guy. I have no idea who that is but I did learn that he released some info that a radio is in the works....I think. So I think this was a worthwhile bump for an old topic.

Why are some of you guys always so bitter?
 
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it doesn't matter to me if and when a TDMA scanner will come out as the regions around me will be all going encrypted within the next year,so its a moot point.as far as the bitterness exhibited,time to lighten up folks,its justa hobby.
 

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AZ....right on man!!! You should try using this garbage. They (Motorola) wont tell you about how it fails all the time and units are lost in the sauce. I have a building in my (fire department) area that from a third floor window I can see the tower yet on my fancy Motorola APX 700 mhz portable, I am out of range. The tower sits next to a highway and when we are under it none of the radios work. Inside a big building? Forget it!! They tell us if (when) this ever happens that we should switch to the talk around channel that no one is listening to. But the radio is a fancy green color and a voice tells you the (wrong) channel that you are on so it must be good. And since our county people that are in charge (and have no clue about any of it) all got new cars or paid vacations to approve the project, our complaints never get heard.

I'm sorry...I got on my soapbox again. Didn't mean to jack the thread.

Maybe that's why there are no new scanners coming out? Maybe the big M doesn't want the general public to know how often their equipment fails jeopardizing the safety of both the public and members of the public safety community.

Now I sound bitter hahaha!!!
 
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We need DSDAuthor to resurface again and update DSD to decode Phase 2 TDMA. I'm done buying $500 scanners when a $15 dongle and some free software can do the same thing. Best money I ever spent, as I can now monitor the local 700Mhz P25 FDMA simulcast systems we have here any time I want.

And yes... I did go bowling, and had a great time! :D Much more fun than trying to monitor this digital garbage.

-AZ

This could be the reason that Uniden isn't in a hurry. For me, trbo and nexedge in my area is encrypted. No big rush for me. But, a scanner that takes care of simulcast issues would be a winner.
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Whatever went digital in my immediate area is either already encrypted (or heading in that direction) so.I won't be looking into a digital scanner anytime soon.
 

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My apologies for my post however it was not made to try and assume anything. I was just asking because I know that sometimes people hear things from different sources. I figured I would just ask here rather than make a new thread to see if maybe I missed something at some point. I don't get on here much as it is.

Jay911 mentioned a Paul guy. I have no idea who that is but I did learn that he released some info that a radio is in the works....I think. So I think this was a worthwhile bump for an old topic.

Why are some of you guys always so bitter?

The "Paul guy" referenced is Paul Opitz, and he is the official voice of Uniden on these forums. His username on here is UPMAN, and a post from him should be the only one you pay attention to in regards to the release of any new Uniden scanner. Anything from anyone else regarding a new Uniden model is just pure speculation and/or wishful thinking.
 
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