Unity XG-100

[NJEMT12982]

I just found what I want for Christmas... This radio looks like it does it all. It suits all of my needs for work and beyond. Anyone have any experience with this radio? Thoughts?

Harris Corporation - Assured Communications Products, Systems and Services for Government and Commercial Customers Worldwide

 

[greenthumb]

No P25 trunking for a while...

 

[ElroyJetson]

APX7000, available now, WITH P25 trunking. Now available in the B version, which does include UHF along with VHF and 700/800.

Cost...up to 10 grand if you want it all.


You don't think you'll get those other bands FREE, do you?


Elroy

 

[svtlcpdmedic]

APX7000, available now, WITH P25 trunking. Now available in the B version, which does include UHF along with VHF and 700/800.

Cost...up to 10 grand if you want it all.


You don't think you'll get those other bands FREE, do you?


Elroy

Too expensive and the B version only dose low band UHF not T band!

The Harris Unity XG-100P-004
dose the following:
• Analog FM
• P25 Conventional
• GPS
• Bluetooth
• AES/DES Encryption
• P25 OTAR
• P25 Trunking

The price I was given was $6500 including radio, extra battery, charger, speaker mike, programing cable and software.
If anyone on this group already has this radio I would like to hear from you on your evaluation of the radio. I am also interested in how many alpha numeric characters you can program for a channel tag and a zone tag.

Thanks

 

[IceBlueEyes579]

Apx 7500

APX7000, available now, WITH P25 trunking. Now available in the B version, which does include UHF along with VHF and 700/800.

Cost...up to 10 grand if you want it all.


You don't think you'll get those other bands FREE, do you?


Elroy

Hey,

Do you know when the APX 7500 mobile "B version" will be coming out?


Andrew

 

[ProducerGuy]

Too expensive and the B version only dose low band UHF not T band!

The Harris Unity XG-100P-004
dose the following:
• Analog FM
• P25 Conventional
• GPS
• Bluetooth
• AES/DES Encryption
• P25 OTAR
• P25 Trunking

The price I was given was $6500 including radio, extra battery, charger, speaker mike, programing cable and software.
If anyone on this group already has this radio I would like to hear from you on your evaluation of the radio. I am also interested in how many alpha numeric characters you can program for a channel tag and a zone tag.

Thanks

Not a bad price, considering the "package deal". At least the Harris will "do all the channels" right out of the box, instead of having to mess around with some "version B" nonsense as in the APX. Why Motorola can't deliver a product that works right the first time......well, keep on asking, I guess. Can you advise a contact number, or other point of contact for Harris ?

 

[ElroyJetson]

I have a somewhat different perspective. And I was not quite accurate earlier. The B version is apparently not YET available to customers.

Motorola is not going to release it until they believe they have a GOOD WORKING PRODUCT, not one that still has major bugs in it.

I've heard from a few usually reliable sources that the Thales Liberty and Harris Unity radios are both far from perfect, with a few "issues" still to be worked out. Putting so many operating bands into a single radio apparently isn't all that easy and lots of little things show up in the field that weren't discovered in the test labs.

I commend Motorola for not releasing the B (all band) version radios until they have all the bugs worked out. This may actually turn out to be VERY smart for them as they may actually pick up
some customers that got frustrated with the Unity or Liberty and sent them back.

Maybe.


Elroy

 

[JohnWayne]

One thing to keep in mind with the Unity is that it was designed by the tactical radio group - not the public safety group - at Harris. The tactical folks have been designing wideband radios forever, but they were new to the whole public safety thing. The point is that the product quality is quite good, but there may be a few features and such that public safety really wants, but the "green radio" guys didn't think of. They also like to use a little different nomenclature, such as calling FM and P25 "waveforms" instead of modes, etc.

If you have specific problems in mind, I can probably chase down a resolution or status.

Jeff

 

[E5911]

unity xg-100

I too would like to speak to anyone who has one.

There is also a mobile radio to go with it, but I am unsure if it will do p-25

 

[MASTRTECH]

The P25 Trunking feature is due to be released in March 2011

 

[fineshot1]

I just had one of these for a couple of days to some testing with.

I did some bench checks on rx sensitivity on vhf, uhf and 800 and
it is super sensitive to the point that I think they (the engineers)
compromised the rx selectivity(which i can find no specs on). I
only had the time to do some strong signal (adjacent radio tx'ing)
and the radio on vhf would desense just like a hammy radio all the
time but the same testing with a moto ht1000 and ht600 proved
that these radios were impervious to the same strong inband
(1 mhz away from the rx freq) signal overload.

I did not do this in any scientific manner - it was just a curiosity
that I had once i discovered just how sensitive this unit is.

I hope that big bad dipole antenna on this thing offsets the receiver
sensitivity.

 

[ElroyJetson]

I got a chance to put an APX 7000 through its paces on the bench, too, recently. A VHF/800 example with a loaded feature package.

The receivers met the published specs but just barely. I've never seen a Motorola radio before that didn't exceed its specs. I got 12 dB SINAD at -120 dBM and absolutely no better than that. By way of comparison, my personal VHF XTS5000 delivers 12 dB SINAD at -129 dBM, making it the single most sensitive FM receiver I've yet measured in a portable radio.

The APX does seem to be well engineered, with good performance, but I was hoping for a little more sensitivity, although selectivity seems to be very good, which is arguably more important.


Elroy

 

[Baylink]

One thing to keep in mind with the Unity is that it was designed by the tactical radio group - not the public safety group - at Harris. The tactical folks have been designing wideband radios forever, but they were new to the whole public safety thing. The point is that the product quality is quite good, but there may be a few features and such that public safety really wants, but the "green radio" guys didn't think of. They also like to use a little different nomenclature, such as calling FM and P25 "waveforms" instead of modes, etc.

And Jeff rings the bell. I was looking the (159 page) operators manual for this radio, and thinking (to quote someone else) well, *that's* gonna get a lot of cops killed trying to call for backup... and then I figured it out.

The people who designed this radio are used to an environment (military tactical) where a "Multi-Channel Radio operator" MOS will be the guy toting it around, and 3-day seminar on how to run it effectively is a practical approach to the problem.

I strongly question whether that's a valid approach to the public safety market they're targeting with the radio, as pretty as it is.

 

[bobgcc]

Just took delivery of 5 of the XG-100P radios. So far i am very impressed. Have yet to do any bench testing and the programming software is difficult to get used to to say the least. Overall a very solid product packed with features. If anyone has questions about it, please let me know.

Bob

 

[svtlcpdmedic]

Harris Unity Mobile

I too would like to speak to anyone who has one.

There is also a mobile radio to go with it, but I am unsure if it will do p-25

I am a authorized Harris Unity dealer the release date for the mobile XG-100 is March 2011.

 

[bobgcc]

Too expensive and the B version only dose low band UHF not T band!

The Harris Unity XG-100P-004
dose the following:
• Analog FM
• P25 Conventional
• GPS
• Bluetooth
• AES/DES Encryption
• P25 OTAR
• P25 Trunking

The price I was given was $6500 including radio, extra battery, charger, speaker mike, programing cable and software.
If anyone on this group already has this radio I would like to hear from you on your evaluation of the radio. I am also interested in how many alpha numeric characters you can program for a channel tag and a zone tag.

Thanks

You can have up to 16 characters per channel tag on the front screen and up to 8 characters on the top screen.

 

[W4TF]

Just took delivery of 5 of the XG-100P radios. So far i am very impressed. Have yet to do any bench testing and the programming software is difficult to get used to to say the least. Overall a very solid product packed with features. If anyone has questions about it, please let me know.

Bob

I hope u have experience with Motorola's APX7000....and if so, how does the radio compare? How does the programming (both software and fpp if possible/available)

Thanks,
AJ4VS

 

[KG6GTH]

Xg-100

I had the Harris for a few months on loan to me to evaluate.... Nice to have all 3 bands but still some issues. E-mail me privately at wd6fox@gmail.com for other comments.

I used the radio when President Obama visited and the Los Angeles Triathlon...... Again was nice to have 1 zone with my complete com plan in it. Would be more then happy to share my experiences....


-Sean

Los Angeles, Ca

 

[bobgcc]

I hope u have experience with Motorola's APX7000....and if so, how does the radio compare? How does the programming (both software and fpp if possible/available)

Thanks,
AJ4VS

Unfortunately, I do not have any experience with the APX7000. The FPP on the unity works very well. It can be password protected to stop unauthorized changes to the channels. The Software is very difficult to use. I am used to Icom and Motorola software. The Harris software works well once you figure out the basics. It does have some nice features such as programming by bluetooth and easy cloning of channels to other zones. If you give me your email address i can send you some screen shots from the programming software.

 

[c5corvette]

I really like the radio. (I can't wait for my P25 Trunking tri-band Datron, though.)

The ability to store multiple "mission plans" (like a code plug) and load them on demand from the radio itself is the nice part I do agree about it being designed by the 'green radio' people could be an issue for the LEO community.

The P25 Trunking feature is due to be released in March 2011

Pre-production trunking units are already out there in the hands of special people.

I am a authorized Harris Unity dealer the release date for the mobile XG-100 is March 2011.

The mobile has the VHF low-band capability as well. (Thats the one I want.)