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Unknown GMRS Repeater ID York Co SC

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When scanning (over several weeks) I am often receiving a strong and clear repeater ID in morse code on 462.625 and 467.625. My antenna is a "compromise" indoor antenna so it must be close. I've tried several radio checks with no reply. Searched every GMRS database and Googled for countless hours. I have found *nothing*. Is this common? Any clues someone might offer?
 
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You shouldn't hear a repeater ID on 467.625 as that is a repeater input.
 
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There's no requirement for a GMRS repeater to be listed anywhere. I've known quite a few private repeaters that aren't listed anywhere and don't want to be.
 
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I would decode the ID and look it up in the FCC ULS. The ID will be the callsign of the repeater owner. As MTS2000des already pointed out, it can be decoded with a phone app if you don't know Morse.
 
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Enforcer52 said:
That is FRS channel 18

462.625MFRS 18Channel 18FMNOther
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True however FRS and GMRS share Channel 18. FRS does not allow repeaters. Yes the overlap of two radio services is confusing.

Hans13 said:
You shouldn't hear a repeater ID on 467.625 as that is a repeater input.
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A very popular local repeater does a Morse ID every 15 minutes or so on 467.575.

Hans13 said:
There's no requirement for a GMRS repeater to be listed anywhere. I've known quite a few private repeaters that aren't listed anywhere and don't want to be.
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This may be the best clue so far. Thank you.

Hans13 said:
I would decode the ID and look it up in the FCC ULS. The ID will be the callsign of the repeater owner. As MTS2000des already pointed out, it can be decoded with a phone app if you don't know Morse.
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Great suggestion because I definitely do *not* know Morse. Thanks guys. I'll keep hunting.
 
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JimmyJet727 said:
A very popular local repeater does a Morse ID every 15 minutes or so on 467.575.
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It may but it is not supposed to. That was the point of me typing "shouldn't" and not something like "couldn't".

Edited to add: That might be another clue. It's rare for a repeater to ID on the input because 1 - It is against the regulations. 2 - It takes more equipment to do so (have to have a separate transmitter and antenna for the 467 frequency). 3 - Why? Why would someone even want to do it.

So, it being rare and taking extra effort might be another clue. If it is IDing on the input and the output then there is a good chance it is owned by the same people who put up the "very popular local repeater" that "does a Morse ID every 15 minutes or so on 467." It's a weird, extra effort that has no point to it and is against the rules (AFAIK); then the simple guess is it is the repeater owner that already does this on another pair. ;)
 
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JimmyJet727 said:
A very popular local repeater does a Morse ID every 15 minutes or so on 467.575.
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The Morse decoder is probably your best bet.

Couple of other things:

Are you hearing any voice traffic, or just the Morse ID every 15 minutes screaming into the ether?

How is your GMRS radio set up? Do you have it programmed to properly transmit on the 467.575MHz frequency and receive on 462.575?

If you don't have the correct PL/DPL tones for the repeater, it's possible they will not hear you.

Do you have a scanner that will decode PL/DPL codes?
-It's possible that input and output may have different codes, so the PL/DPL transmitted by the repeater may not be the same as the one on the receive side.

Some repeaters are just not open to other users and won't share information. If you run into a brick wall, you might be out of luck.
 
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Enforcer52 said:
That is FRS channel 18

462.625MFRS 18Channel 18FMNOther
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Eh, also GMRS with a 50 watt output. It's normally used for a repeater output on GMRS.
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You shouldn't hear a repeater ID on 467.625 as that is a repeater input.
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Ya I never ID'd on my inputs, ham or GMRS when I had them up and running.
 
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There's an open repeater on 462.625 at Rock Hill WRAM265. How far are you from that location?
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I am indeed near Rock Hill and there are actually two repeaters on 625. A Google search of "WRAM265 GMRS" shows this...

Rock Hill GMRS Repeaters

www.repeaterbook.com

How the heck did that get past me? I was under the impression that MyGMRS has the best GMRS database. Evidently not. MyGMRS does not even show those 2 repeaters. Ironically 1 of those repeaters is sponsored by a local radio distributor where I'm picking up a new antenna today. I will pick their brain while I'm there.

Thanks guys for all the help. This is great info.

Edit: Oops misread one of the 2 is actually 650 not 625.
 
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