unknown trunked system

[ve5wil]

Found an unknown trunked system. I am not sure what brand. Anyone in the Moose Jaw area have an idea?(866.1250 MHz)

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10158737077639829

 

[Kel]

It's the new MJCP NXDN encrypted system.

MJPD - For what it’s worth.

 

[ve5wil]

It's possible. I know they wanted to keep their original channel. Hoping by the end of the month to have enough coin aside to pick up a NXDN DMR capable radio.

 

[ryan433pk]

It's definitely an NXDN control channel. I can only imagine how much money they saved on this system vs P25

 

[ve5wil]

Running DSD+ and can't see that signal this morning, but did hit on 867.125 as an NXDN96. Audio is a match for what was received on 866.125

So far TG 101, 104. RID's of 206, , 607, 109, 502, 501, 1101 and chs 403 and 401. the RID 206 and TG 101 coincides with MJPS former system structure.

DSD+ screen shows Nexedge96 Site: R251-1 RAN:1

 

[ve5wil]

Another NXDN96 system - hit on 461.???? (didn't catch whole freq) Voice very robotic.

 

[mciupa]

Thanks for your detective work for MJPS. I've added it to the database: Moose Jaw Police Service Trunking System, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan - Scanner Frequencies

I'll be watching for updates on the 461 system as well.

 

[ryan433pk]

Moose Jaw Union Hospital is licensed for 461.2, quite possible it's hospital security.

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[Kel]

Hospital is also NXDN portables,with repeater aerial on roof for use also at Pioneer Lodge,they are used for maintenance radios,tried to send pic regarding MJPD on my scanner but it says file is to big to send,anyone can tell me other way to post pic?If you want to get together Wil for a coffee I will bring my TRX-1 and we can do some scanning?

For database it is now called
F.W.Wigmore Regional Hospital.

Pics

 

[ve5wil]

Hospital is also NXDN portables,with repeater aerial on roof for use also at Pioneer Lodge,they are used for maintenance radios,tried to send pic regarding MJPD on my scanner but it says file is to big to send,anyone can tell me other way to post pic?If you want to get together Wil for a coffee I will bring my TRX-1 and we can do some scanning?

Call me tomorrow Kel , I am interested in seeing the TRX-1. Debating on it or the SDS100. New number is 313-7854

 

[ve5wil]

One more channel for MJPS, 862.625. It looks like the control channel changes daily.

As for the hospital - 461.2 and 466.2 NXDN96 Conventional used by maintenance.

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Running DSD+ and can't see that signal this morning, but did hit on 867.125 as an NXDN96. Audio is a match for what was received on 866.125

So far TG 101, 104. RID's of 206, , 607, 109, 502, 501, 1101 and chs 403 and 401. the RID 206 and TG 101 coincides with MJPS former system structure.

DSD+ screen shows Nexedge96 Site: R251-1 RAN:1

Would like to see some screen shots posted here from DSD-Plus if possible. Sorry, I'm not a member of that other cult just this one.

 

[ve5wil]

video clip to follow

 

[ve5wil]

hmmm... sitting on data channel showing site 251.... all of a sudden it changes to site L23009, the after about 5 minutes jumps to site L22963.
once i get screen capture software DL I'll try to get a clip

 

[ryan433pk]

hmmm... sitting on data channel showing site 251.... all of a sudden it changes to site L23009, the after about 5 minutes jumps to site L22963.
once i get screen capture software DL I'll try to get a clip

I've seen similar things decoding NXDN systems in Saskatoon, it seems like thats a data error. Maybe poor signal?

Can anyone advise if they're using AES?

 

[ve5wil]

I've seen similar things decoding NXDN systems in Saskatoon, it seems like thats a data error. Maybe poor signal?

Edit - can anyone advise if they're using AES?

5 of the possible 16 TG on the system are full AES, 10 other have option for lesser secure standards and 1 TG will be fully unencrypted (when patched through PPSTN to MJSAR).
The encryption and talkgroup info was out of the original RFP

 

[Jay911]

hmmm... sitting on data channel showing site 251.... all of a sudden it changes to site L23009, the after about 5 minutes jumps to site L22963.
once i get screen capture software DL I'll try to get a clip

Literally every row on the raw data output on your screenshots shows an error. It's a wonder you're getting any decode at all.

 

[ve5wil]

Literally every row on the raw data output on your screenshots shows an error. It's a wonder you're getting any decode at all.

Probably because the feed is coming from a PSR800 which doesn't have NXDN support. The only patch cord I have at the moment is stereo and DSD dosen't seem to like those.