Yes - today was the planned switch, unfortunately…
Upcoming Encryption
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Mille Lacs County radioed that on 3/5/26 at 7am they are switching to Law 1 Encrypted. It was later mentioned that they will only be on encryption until 3/6/26 at 4am. I fear they may be testing and making the switch soon.
Man i thought he would be one of the last ones to go with how he talks.
Confirmed that Mille Lacs switched to encryption on their main dispatch this morning at 7am, there goes another one. The new talkgroup is 43242.
So it wasnt temporary?
It was radioed as temporary, they were encrypted from 7am on 3/5 to 4am on 3/6. They were unencrypted for 3 hours and then dispatched the switchover.
Dang that sucks.
Problem is, there is no public "right to know."
I defy you to find where in American law (at any level!) such right is codified.
In order to properly function, it is necessary for a government to be able to keep secrets - which is why FOIA requests can be denied. The problem comes when they get enthusiastic about such, realizing that we don't have a positive "right" to know anything, and acting upon that.
What we have is access to information, reinforced by 250 years of tradition. But that's not a "right," not by any stretch of the imagination.
The press may (theoretically) have free access to the government, that doesn't mean the government has to do anything in front of them.
And this may be a case of "reactionary encryption," where the cops get tired of the ambulance-chasers and trauma junkies getting there before they do themselves, and contaminating the scene. I can see how that would be a problem - but that can be handled individually - arrest a few, and word will get around. The charge can be obstruction of justice (by contaminating a crime scene.)
I'll try again
Ok so i tried multiple times to figure out to properly program my g5 with all the fire tone outs over p25 from orange county ny fire paging.
I guess there is a lot of overlapping issues, for example 36-14 & 36-15 are both the same tone13 & tone10 645hz-559hz.
My g5 constantly crashed after programming all the available tone outs. so I deleted all the doubles, and it's fine now.
but my million $ question is I played around with the tone out protocol, by default in pps under p25T, it's 1 second then 2 second. But in reality the tone outs are 1 sec then 3 sec.
And i played around with the protocol settings & i think i messed it up, and now nothing comes through the pager.
it sounds like it's a 1 second 3 second then 1.4 sec gap then 1.5 second 3 second for a fire department with a siren tone out, based on recordings i took from fd paging. ( meaning 2 sets of two tones).
maybe I'm having it all wrong can someone break it down in detail on exactly how to set up the protocol of the P25T tone outs.
also sometimes multiple departments are being paged and I'm not sure the GAP needed.
& 1 last question what is the 3rd interesting tone for 36 Coordinators after their 2 tone
Also the north tower, sounds garbled & choppy on the g5, but has wider area coverage when driving around the county.
but the south tower, sounds a little better (also not like old school analog). But has less reception coverage when driving around the county. Any solutions? Because if I program both towers with all control channels, only site 1 gets picked even if site 2 will sound better at that spot.
I have a unication g5 700/800 uhf-D. that's why I'm trying tone outs over fd paging p25T, & not over the analog vhf since I have a uhf g5
I am now ultimately confused, Mille Lacs has switched their dispatch back to the unencrypted main today resuming traffic on 43248. There was also a new unencrypted talkgroup 43262 introduced today in their range. I have stored the talkgroup and awaiting traffic on it to discover what it's used for and have it added to the DB. I am not exactly sure what they are up to.
Well thats weird. Either testing for future encryption or making sure they can toggle encryption on and off for events?
Mille Lacs Sheriff switched back to Encrypted this morning at 10:00 A.M. and radioed "use encrypted from here on out" to units, sounds like this is the official switch.
That sucks. Another one bites the dust.
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