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bush_man

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I know there are less and less, it won't be long until we are at 100%, please submit the talkgroups that are fully encrypted through the submission procedure and they will be changed in the database.
 

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CFD clear

I was glad that CFD wasn't encrypted today as I heard them attending the smash up on Death Foot trail in Calgary and was able to detour around this smash up. And it happend before the radio stations had any eyes in the sky.
 

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Maybe I'm just imagining this, but has anyone noticed if all radio's on a tg are encrypted DOCC is encrypted too. But sometimes DOCC isn't encrypted. I'm just wondering if a radio that is in the clear joins the tg, if DOCC comes in the clear as well.
Eg: tg 62 has all encrypted radio's but sometimes DOCC comes in the clear as well as one of the radio's being used. Other times all you hear is encryption.
 

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Their radios were reprogrammed and some of the RCMP officers are having problems using their radios now. They do not know when they are using encryption or not so dispatch may go off encryption to answer these unencrypted units when they have to. Looks like every TG south of Regina is still open right now. All the north TGs are encrypted .
 

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Weyburn TG has been pretty much all encrypted last night., so not sure where things are at, but the SE corner, Estevan through Carduff is still alive...for NOW
 

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Not 100% encryption

Anyone in Regina hear this, or was it just me ?
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At 21:00 hours on August 10, 2013 Regina RCMP GIS members along with Fort QuAppelle RCMP
members executed a search warrant at a home located in north central Regina. The home is in
the Highland Park / Imperial Park area.
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I could see that something was up at about 16:30 hours when the locals moved to Tac 8 and when
a Southey unit affiliated to the site on Tac 8 at 16:54 hours. Then a "Delta" unit affiliated at 18:41.
I only watch for the affiliations and I never listen for action. Later at about 20:05 hours I had a look
at the Channel grants and noticed the (Enc) for only some of the units, so I stopped the program
and hit scan to find out what was going on. There was lots of unencrypted action right up to 21:00
hours, when they entered the home.
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Why are some of the units not encrypted ?
The Talkgroups are programmed into the radio in zones / ramps. There is a maximum or 16 talkgroups
per zone. You must first choose the zone and then the talkgroup that you want to use. In one zone/ramp
all the TGs are encrypted but in another zone all those same TGs will not be encrypted. They were on the
correct TG but in the wrong zone. It is very easy for the user to choose the wrong zone.
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"Timestamp","Function","TG ID","TG Description","RadioID","Radio Description"
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Affiliations to site:
"08/10 16:26:58","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212118,"Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:54:24","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212124,"Portable FQ 11"
"08/10 16:54:36","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212076,"A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:12:13","Affiliate",12,"RCMP HQ",2212117,"Portable FQ 4"
"08/10 17:12:15","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212117,"Portable FQ 4"
"08/10 17:24:39","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212118,"Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 18:24:41","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212118,"Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 18:41:21","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2211364,"D393"
"08/10 18:47:31","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2211364,"D393"
"08/10 18:48:17","Affiliate",12,"RCMP HQ",2211364,"D393"
"08/10 19:11:16","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212114,"Portable FQ 1"
"08/10 19:16:09","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2211364,"D393"
"08/10 19:35:54","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2211364,"D393"
"08/10 19:41:32","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212123,"Portable FQ 10"
"08/10 19:47:21","Affiliate",41,"RCMP Tac 8",2212124,"Portable FQ 11"
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Site Channel grants:
"08/10 16:27:00","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:27:05","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:27:08","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:27:18","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:27:25","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:27:31","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:27:40","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:27:48","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:27:51","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:27:56","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:28:00","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 18","RCMP FtQuAppelle","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 16:28:03","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:28:06","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 18","RCMP FtQuAppelle","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 16:28:08","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:32:48","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:33:00","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:33:03","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:33:27","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:33:43","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:33:52","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:33:56","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:34:10","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:34:24","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:34:30","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:34:52","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:35:13","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:35:23","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:35:34","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:35:44","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:38:39","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:38:43","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:38:48","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:39:00","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:40:13","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:40:36","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:40:38","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:41:30","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:42:46","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:42:51","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:43:08","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:43:12","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:43:25","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:43:40","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:43:49","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:46:01","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:46:06","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:46:08","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:46:13","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:46:22","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:46:37","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:46:53","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:47:09","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:47:23","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 16:47:33","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:47:55","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:48:09","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:48:25","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:53:00","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:53:03","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:54:37","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 16:54:43","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 16:54:45","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 16:58:27","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:01:54","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:02:18","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 17:02:22","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:02:34","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:02:42","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:02:48","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:03:23","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:03:29","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:03:44","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:03:52","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:03:57","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:04:02","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:04:05","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:04:11","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:05:36","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:06:14","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:06:28","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:06:32","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:06:44","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:06:52","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:06:56","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:07:04","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 17:16:05","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:16:15","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 17:16:22","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:20:51","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:21:06","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:21:13","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:21:18","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:21:24","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:21:32","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:21:41","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:21:48","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:22:00","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:22:05","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:23:30","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:23:35","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:23:38","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:23:50","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:24:01","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:24:06","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:24:17","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:24:28","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:24:40","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:28:59","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 17:33:36","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 17:33:42","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:33:44","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 17:33:54","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:36:14","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:36:20","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:38:57","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:39:07","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 17:39:21","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:39:28","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:39:33","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:39:35","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:39:39","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:39:52","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:39:54","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211348","Holley"
"08/10 17:39:59","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212076","A681 Southey "
"08/10 17:52:51","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:52:54","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 17:53:01","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212124","Portable FQ 11"
"08/10 17:57:41","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 17:57:45","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212124","Portable FQ 11"
"08/10 17:57:48","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 17:58:03","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212124","Portable FQ 11"
"08/10 17:58:07","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 18:07:51","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:07:52","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:08:00","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:08:01","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:08:06","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:42:16","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:42:21","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 18:42:23","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:42:33","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212118","Portable FQ 5"
"08/10 18:46:10","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:47:36","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:47:37","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:47:42","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:47:47","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:47:50","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:47:53","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:47:58","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:48:03","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:48:05","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:48:13","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 12","RCMP HQ","2211364","D393"
"08/10 18:48:18","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 12","RCMP HQ","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 18:48:20","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 18:48:30","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 19:14:26","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 12","RCMP HQ","2211364","D393"
"08/10 19:14:43","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 12","RCMP HQ","2211364","D393"
"08/10 19:14:57","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 12","RCMP HQ","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 19:15:04","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 12","RCMP HQ","2211364","D393"
"08/10 19:16:11","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 19:16:15","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 19:35:33","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212103","A283 FtQuAppelle"
"08/10 19:35:40","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 19:35:48","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212103","A283 FtQuAppelle"
"08/10 19:35:54","Group","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 19:35:58","Group","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212103","A283 FtQuAppelle"
"08/10 19:36:02","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 19:48:17","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212123","Portable FQ 10"
"08/10 20:02:49","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 20:03:04","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 20:03:08","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 20:03:23","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 20:03:38","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2219004","Dispatch Zone # 4"
"08/10 20:03:53","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 20:03:53","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
"08/10 20:04:03","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 20:04:15","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212114","Portable FQ 1"
"08/10 20:04:26","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 20:04:38","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212114","Portable FQ 1"
"08/10 20:04:46","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 20:04:54","Group (Enc)","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212114","Portable FQ 1"
"08/10 20:05:01","Group (Enc)","00-0093","138.46500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2211364","D393"
"08/10 20:05:07","Group (Enc)","00-0048","138.24000"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212114","Portable FQ 1"
"08/10 20:05:12","Group","00-0219","139.09500"," 41","RCMP Tac 8","2212142","Keith Regina GIS"
Stopped the program and started to listen to all the action.
 

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that's weird, I was under the assumption that the entire province is now 100% encrypted, unless there was a glitch that forced the encrypter to shut down and go back to unencrypted?
 

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PPSTN Encryption Type ?

This information can be found on the PPSTN's website:
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Provincial Public Safety Telecommunications Network
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The Ministry of Corrections Public Safety and Policing is in a partnership with
the RCMP and SaskPower having implemented a province-wide P25, AES compatible
shared public safety grade radio system in Saskatchewan.
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The system is designed to meet the specific needs of public safety and public
service agencies such as fire departments, police services, emergency medical
services, emergency preparedness, volunteer search and rescue groups, provincial
government emergency response or enforcement agencies and other related groups.
As the infrastructure builds to accommodate more users, consideration will be
given to municipal public works or private organizations.
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PPSTN state that the network is "AES compatible". PPSTN does not state that AES is being used on the system.
Why ?
Because PPSTN is not using AES.
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I had a close look at the ISP voice frames that show the only 2 types of encryption being used on the PPSTN.
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(83) = Triple DES, 168 bit key used by the RCMP and (04 08) = (KID) Key ID that the RCMP is using. The KID is always the same for each channel grant.
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(81) = DES-OFB, 64 bit key used by Gov.Sk and (02 08)-(02 18)-(02 28)-(02 38)-(02 48)-(02 58)-(02 68)-(02 78)=The Multiple Key IDs (8) that the Gov.Sk is using.
------- These 8 keys (KIDs) are rolling and so they change with each new channel grant on the network.
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All Gov.Sk users GPS/AVL data is being sent in the open (80) = unencrypted and (00 00) = No Key ID used.
The Gov.Sk users location data could be decoded with Motorola's software if one chose to do so.
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The RCMP and Gov.Sk are using 2 very different types of DES and Key IDs so interoberability can only take place on unencrypted talkgroups.
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All of the PPSTN's equipment is AES compatible but they are not using AES.
Why no AES ?
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