Wait for 8200III?

[prcguy]

Mine is not nearby but I don't remember any indication of 25 vs analog. When your in the mode that can decode P25 it will also pass analog and the audio is a little tinny sounding compared to the analog only mode.

Mine is a Govt version and I enable the descrambler to turn on P25, which I think has a V in the corner of the display but also a number from 0 to 255 for the descrambler subcarrier.
prcguy

I am getting some P25,and some blurrps,but i think those channels are encrypted..How do you know for sure if it's digital,other than the sound? The V in lower left corner ??

 

[n0ypd]

Mine is not nearby but I don't remember any indication of 25 vs analog. When your in the mode that can decode P25 it will also pass analog and the audio is a little tinny sounding compared to the analog only mode.

Mine is a Govt version and I enable the descrambler to turn on P25, which I think has a V in the corner of the display but also a number from 0 to 255 for the descrambler subcarrier.
prcguy

OK,i got it figured out now.It's finally getting a bit easier using this receiver .

 

[ddelu7408]

I'm getting an unblocked ,unused MKIII next week and I'm debating whether or not the upgrade is worth it. Any more comments from those that did. Do you feel it was worth $300.

 

[n0ypd]

It's worth it if yo want to listen to P25.

 

[W2WP]

I love the 8200 MK3 but now another $300? If you bought it new now you're talking $1000. Jeez, pay $150 and buy a Uniden 396xt. AND I want to hear from someone who did the upgrade and how P25 sounds and how you set it up.

 

[prcguy]

I have the upgrade and it sounds a little better than my PRO96 in P25 mode. What do you mean by how it's set up?
prcguy

I love the 8200 MK3 but now another $300? If you bought it new now you're talking $1000. Jeez, pay $150 and buy a Uniden 396xt. AND I want to hear from someone who did the upgrade and how P25 sounds and how you set it up.

 

[W2WP]

prcguy- Are you able just to decode p25? Can you listen to a p25 trunking system? Big difference that MK3 owners need to know. Real BIG difference.

 

[fourthhorseman]

No it dose not convert the 8200 to a -Trunking- radio...
Just opens it up to receive P25 Conv..

 

[n0ypd]

The 8200 has much more to offer than the 396,

 

[mule1075]

The 8200 has much more to offer than the 396,

Yes and No it all depends on what you are interested in monitoring.That being said this thread has me charging a set of batteries and firing up the 8200 it has been in the desk drawer collecting dust.

 

[W2WP]

No it dose not convert the 8200 to a -Trunking- radio...
Just opens it up to receive P25 Conv..

That's what I figured. What's the point? P25 repeaters? They run mixed mode usually anyway.

 

[soar697877]

Hi guys, I recently acquired two new, never used AOR AR8200 MK3's, with partial packaging, and I am really confused as to what, exactly, I have due to the various "models"/ "Versions" of this radio that are in existence out there.

Both of the radio's have obviously never been used, but they are only in the white styrofoam trays, no boxing present. The back of each one Reads: "WIDE RANGE RECEIVER MODEL AR8200 EXTERNAL POWER 12V DC AOR, LTD. JAPAN SER No. 058570 (058571 for the other), yes, these are sequential serial numbers. The front face, under the LCD, says AOR AR 8200 , then they both have the MK3 Golden emblem. Online, I have seen many different models showing different back data labels, like AR8200D, AR8200MK3, AR8200B, etc...but I cannot find ones like mine that have AR8200 on back, with the Mk3 golden emblem on the front? Does anyone know how to tell the difference between all the models (variants?) of the MK3?

 

[MarkWestin]

What you have is a pair of 8200 Mk3 U radios. They are unblocked not USA models.Some people think that they are better in some way than the USA models, but have the disadvantage that AOR USA will not work on them. The USA models, which are "Cell Blocked" will have a FCC ID number on them.

Mark

 

[soar697877]

THANK YOU Mark, as I never even thought about that FCC ID being non existent on the labels on the backs of these. You say AOR will NOT work on these? I see on their website that the upgrade they are now offering for $299.00 applies to any radio that has "at least one of the following" , i.e. mine both start with the 05 serial numbers, and they are Mk3's, so...being they are the "U" versions, and are the MK3's (cell unblocked) (Because of the no FCC ID) that is where I am confused now as to why they would not do an upgrade?

Do they mean if you have a 05 serial numbered, AR8200 ( w/ MK3 on front only), it has to be the "B" (US Consumer-blocked version) or the US Gov't version ( Which is what? The "-IR" version on back labels?

So, I have two export models then, is that it? If so, that is confusing also, because I have read that export models do not have the 05 serial numbers...more like starting at 9 ? UGH...Thanks Mark

To qualify for a modification, your receiver must meet at least one of the following:
Serial number: 05XXXX, 055XXX, or 15XXXX
Receiver model: AR8200MK3 only
US consumer version or US government version (for eligible users)

 

[prcguy]

I had a US Govt unblocked version that fits the description that soar697877 gave. AOR US in Torrance had no problem working on it for me.
prcguy

What you have is a pair of 8200 Mk3 U radios. They are unblocked not USA models.Some people think that they are better in some way than the USA models, but have the disadvantage that AOR USA will not work on them. The USA models, which are "Cell Blocked" will have a FCC ID number on them.

Mark

 

[soar697877]

Also, I forgot to add that I also have the VI8200 Voice Inversion cards to go with them too.

Would it be possible that these are early Gov't versions, but without the -IR on the back?

I mean, what labeling constitutes a Gov't version?

 

[soar697877]

I have also seen models that do have the "U" on back label as well as the model, then "-IR".....but the back labels on mine say ONLY "AR8200", with the golden MK3 on front. So, if mine were export U models, why doesn't it state that after the model # on back with the "U" ? OMG, this stuff is going to annoy me quickly...LOL

 

[soar697877]

I had a US Govt unblocked version that fits the description that soar697877 gave. AOR US in Torrance had no problem working on it for me.
prcguy

Thanks for your comment also PRCGUY. I did email AOR here in California, and also in Japan, nothing back yet. I asked them both for some sort of verification/ cheat sheet of their identification of every possible model of the AR8200 MK# they have....I won't hold my breath though...

 

[soar697877]

Hey guys,

To add to my confusion between what Mark stated he thought I had :

What you have is a pair of 8200 Mk3 U radios. They are unblocked not USA models.Some people think that they are better in some way than the USA models, but have the disadvantage that AOR USA will not work on them. The USA models, which are "Cell Blocked" will have a FCC ID number on them.

Mark

And what PRCGUy stated:

I had a US Govt unblocked version that fits the description that soar697877 gave. AOR US in Torrance had no problem working on it for me.
prcguy

Here is what adds to my confusion on my particular radios, take a look at the following Ebay Auction for a "AOR AR8200 Receiver Scanner Radio PC USB Programming Interface Cable Lead" from a company in the United Kingdom:

AOR AR8200 Receiver Scanner Radio PC USB Programming Interface Cable Lead | eBay


They state specifics on the serial numbering and the type of data port ( OLD or NEW Style) to differentiate the proper cabling to use, right?...OK, well, per their wording:

"For use with AOR AR8200 MK1 MK2 MK3 Handheld Receivers with OLD shape option socket located on bottom right side of receiver which includes all of the following, AR8200 with serial number <095431 or AR8200B with serial number <554251 or AR8200U Government Version with serial number <15831


For use with AOR AR8200 MK3 Handheld Receivers with NEW shape option socket located on bottom right side of receiver which includes all of the following, AR8200 with serial number >095431 or AR8200B with serial number >554251 or AR8200U Government Version with serial number >15831

Choose your option socket type NEW OR OLD Please send a message with your chosen option socket type"


MY new two radios here have the OLD shaped port (Short, fatty 10 pin), with serial numbers 058570 and 058571. By these guys saying "AR8200U Government Version with serial number <15831" in the first paragraph, suggests to me that since my receivers have serial numbers ABOVE (not less than) 15831,
and they have the older style socket type, that they are NOT the government versions?

So, where does that leave me, in regards to what these are...? They do state "AR8200" on back label,
but they DO also have the MK3 golden emblem on the front. The back label has NO FCC ID.....

Are they then overseas AR 8200 MK3 models that are naturally cell unblocked, that also is the exact same as the Gov't versions at that time, but without the "-IR" (Infrared) on the model names, i.e. AR8200-IR that currently distinguish a "u" or "Gov't" version?

Having a physical "U" or a "U-IR"after a model is the way they distinguish a Gov't model, correct?

Mine have no U or U-IR on them. So, until I get something back from AOR, I am going to have to
continue over analyzing all of this until my eyeballs fall out I guess, LOL...


Peace,
Soar697877

 

[prcguy]

My unblocked US Govt version with IR LED display did not have anything on its tag to designate what it was. You might get the IR instructions from the AOR site and see if it acts like an IR model, otherwise it could be a plain unblocked grey market version or an unblocked US Govt version without IR. The IR version is modified and sold through Radio Reconnaissance Technologies for military customers who use night vision goggles.

I don't remember what the computer socket looked like but after it was upgraded to P25 it had a standard mini USB connector and used standard USB cables for programming. I probably have the original programming cable around here somewhere. My unit originally came with the inversion descrambler card, which I still have and after the upgrade the descrmbler was built into the unit and didn't need the card.
prcguy

Hey guys,

To add to my confusion between what Mark stated he thought I had :

What you have is a pair of 8200 Mk3 U radios. They are unblocked not USA models.Some people think that they are better in some way than the USA models, but have the disadvantage that AOR USA will not work on them. The USA models, which are "Cell Blocked" will have a FCC ID number on them.

Mark

And what PRCGUy stated:

I had a US Govt unblocked version that fits the description that soar697877 gave. AOR US in Torrance had no problem working on it for me.
prcguy

Here is what adds to my confusion on my particular radios, take a look at the following Ebay Auction for a "AOR AR8200 Receiver Scanner Radio PC USB Programming Interface Cable Lead" from a company in the United Kingdom:

AOR AR8200 Receiver Scanner Radio PC USB Programming Interface Cable Lead | eBay


They state specifics on the serial numbering and the type of data port ( OLD or NEW Style) to differentiate the proper cabling to use, right?...OK, well, per their wording:

"For use with AOR AR8200 MK1 MK2 MK3 Handheld Receivers with OLD shape option socket located on bottom right side of receiver which includes all of the following, AR8200 with serial number <095431 or AR8200B with serial number <554251 or AR8200U Government Version with serial number <15831


For use with AOR AR8200 MK3 Handheld Receivers with NEW shape option socket located on bottom right side of receiver which includes all of the following, AR8200 with serial number >095431 or AR8200B with serial number >554251 or AR8200U Government Version with serial number >15831

Choose your option socket type NEW OR OLD Please send a message with your chosen option socket type"


MY new two radios here have the OLD shaped port (Short, fatty 10 pin), with serial numbers 058570 and 058571. By these guys saying "AR8200U Government Version with serial number <15831" in the first paragraph, suggests to me that since my receivers have serial numbers ABOVE (not less than) 15831,
and they have the older style socket type, that they are NOT the government versions?

So, where does that leave me, in regards to what these are...? They do state "AR8200" on back label,
but they DO also have the MK3 golden emblem on the front. The back label has NO FCC ID.....

Are they then overseas AR 8200 MK3 models that are naturally cell unblocked, that also is the exact same as the Gov't versions at that time, but without the "-IR" (Infrared) on the model names, i.e. AR8200-IR that currently distinguish a "u" or "Gov't" version?

Having a physical "U" or a "U-IR"after a model is the way they distinguish a Gov't model, correct?

Mine have no U or U-IR on them. So, until I get something back from AOR, I am going to have to
continue over analyzing all of this until my eyeballs fall out I guess, LOL...


Peace,
Soar697877