Walmart no longer MURS

[Hans13]

At least the store in my town here isn't looking to trespass anyone with a radio on their belt. This thing has gone way off course. I totally understand a business can tell someone to get out (read trespass) and not return for any reason they wish. I've done it when I had my shop. Also I was called when I was a police officer to remove people that had been told not to return.

I'm pretty familiar with how it all works. MY only question that had to do with this had more to do with a manager's mindset, I used "on what grounds" but ideally it's "why" would he do that. Also Wal Mart does not have "trespassing anyone with a radio" on their list of reasons to do that. At least the store here does not. I don't know how universal that list is.

Now back to the original title of this.....

Re: radio

Yep, radio at a distance is how I know the local Target is on FRS channel 3. Our household uses FRS channel 3 so I have it programmed in my mobile to listen. When I am in one of my regular dinner restaurant's drive-through line, I can hear Target on FRS channel 3 plain as day. This Target is across a busy 6 lane or more road with a really large parking lot and the restaurant's parking lot between. So, yeah, distance away from the property would be no problem.

 

[K9KLC]

I have not found the frequency for the Walmart here in town. Got to make it a point to try and get a look at one of their radios whenever I'm back there, which is not often. However, the one in neighboring Kearny, NJ is still on 154.570

Ours here is still on 154.57 as of a week or two ago I didn't ask when I was out there but at least some of the employees still had the old radios or Baofengs.

 

[K9KLC]

Re: radio

Yep, radio at a distance is how I know the local Target is on FRS channel 3. Our household uses FRS channel 3 so I have it programmed in my mobile to listen. When I am in one of my regular dinner restaurant's drive-through line, I can hear Target on FRS channel 3 plain as day. This Target is across a busy 6 lane or more road with a really large parking lot and the restaurant's parking lot between. So, yeah, distance away from the property would be no problem.

Exactly. The trespass thing is a moot point unless someone was actually stupid enough to go in there to interfere to just watch them run around or something. And that person needs to get a life right after he gets out of jail.

 

[Peter_SD911]

What really sucks is that I can no longer just come up on the Walmart channel and ask where items where...cause I'm kinda lazy.

"This is associate Josh, can someone tell me where blueberry Poptarts are?"
"AIsle 22 Josh."
Someone always replies and never questions who I am...they have new associates everyday.

My life now sucks...all I can do now is pester Costco about all the carts in the parking lot...

"This is Kirkland District Manager Castillo,,,we need carts retrieved from the lot...Chop! Chop!."

It's fun to watch, while I scarf down my $1.50 hotdog and Coke.

 

[KK4JUG]

And Peter_SD911, you're the reason they want to make their communications unavailable.

 

[kc2asb]

It's fun to watch, while I scarf down my $1.50 hotdog and Coke.

The $5 roasted whole chicken is a better value.

 

[Peter_SD911]

And Peter_SD911, you're the reason they want to make their communications unavailable.

Yes...
Walmart is a gateway drug to jamming GMRS...
I will seek professional help...

"Mckenna Help me !!!!"

 

[Hans13]

Yes...
Walmart is a gateway drug to jamming GMRS...
I will seek professional help...

"Mckenna Help me !!!!"

 

[kc2asb]

Our local Costco is on 468.2125. While encryption of public safety comms has been decades in the making, who ever thought we would lose retailers like Walmart to frequency-hopping radios? I would have lost that bet.

 

[nd5y]

Our local Costco is on 468.2125. While encryption of public safety comms has been decades in the making, who ever thought we would lose retailers like Walmart to frequency-hopping radios? I would have lost that bet.

Most drive-trhu intercoms went digital years or decades ago.

 

[trimmerj]

It amazes me (and actually scares me a little bit, too) that there's that much interest in listening to the workings of a Walmart store. Am I missing something?

Due to encryption, a lot of us have lowered the bar for what we listen to.

 

[kc2asb]

Due to encryption, a lot of us have lowered the bar for what we listen to.

Indeed. Also depends on the Walmart. Some are more interesting than others. Before my local PD went "E", they regularly responded to our local Walmart.


@nd5y wrote:

Most drive-trhu intercoms went digital years or decades ago.

Thanks. I know the local Burger King disappeared from VHF low about 20 years ago.

 

[K9KLC]

Indeed. Also depends on the Walmart. Some are more interesting than others. Before my local PD went "E", they regularly responded to our local Walmart.


@nd5y wrote:


Thanks. I know the local Burger King disappeared from VHF low about 20 years ago.

When the town here had local dispatch they went encrypted due to some moron interfering with them. (yes intentionally). A couple of years ago or close to it, they got the bright idea to shut local dispatch down and go thru county on the P-25 system, on StarCom21 and are not encrypted there. The car to car stuff on VHF they use some is still encrypted and also the Fire department frequencies are 99% encrypted.

Fortunately we can at least usually hear the dispatches and a lot of traffic but now we have to sift thru all the county dispatches and really pay attention to who's calling who. The fire department has tone outs on VHF in the clear (usually) but once rolling we loose them to E. I don't honestly listen to the FD too much here most the rest of the county is patched to the SC group and while here they were for a few weeks testing, we don't hear that any longer. Honestly while I'll never not have a scanner, my desire to hear drive thru's and most stores is pretty non existent. I'll just play more on ham radio I guess. LOL.

Our drive thru's here have been digital for quite some time now. Frankly I'm more worried about them getting my order correct than hearing what others are doing.

 

[Coffeemug]

Wait til Customers start walking around with their Own Curve talkies lol, not that anyone would do that! I had a manager tell me, the most they can do is trespass you if you're in their store with one.

You have a valid point there! I'm surprised that Wal-Mart didn't consider using White Dot Black Dot or Orange Dot, since UHF band is more practical for indoor use. I know that some restraint changes use FRS for comms between staff onsite management.

 

[Hans13]

You have a valid point there! I'm surprised that Wal-Mart didn't consider using White Dot Black Dot or Orange Dot, since UHF band is more practical for indoor use. I know that some restraint changes use FRS for comms between staff onsite management.

Walmart has been slapped with an NAL before for using a business band frequency without a license. Why would they go through the trouble of researching and licensing a business band, UHF or not, when they can use 900mHz and not have interference? Fortunately, they were not foolish enough to just hop on a UHF business band and begin transmitting AGAIN. MURS did what they needed at the time; VHF worked good enough. 900 mHz now works even better for them as they don't have the interference they did with MURS or would have with UHF itinerant frequencies or even FRS.

Also, "staff and management" could've used FRS. There was and is nothing stopping them except for the high probability of interference.

 

[62Truck]

Great... no more sending the CSM around the store on a goose hunt...

 

[KK4JUG]

Wait til Customers start walking around with their Own Curve talkies lol, not that anyone would do that! I had a manager tell me, the most they can do is trespass you if you're in their store with one.

All states have a malicious mischief type of statute and if business is interrupted or adversely affected, that would likely apply. That's in addition to trespass

 

[wtp]

an ex-girlfriend was working at a walmart and a couple of local older kids had a radio on 154.6 .
so i told her, to tell them, that you had an ex that works for the FCC and he can find you and he will pass by this afternoon.
so i stuck 3 mag mounts on the car and did a 'drive by'.
after that she had no trouble.
and no, i did not, and never have worked for the FCC.
but not many cars look like a porcupine.

 

[Coffeemug]

Walmart has been slapped with an NAL before for using a business band frequency without a license. Why would they go through the trouble of researching and licensing a business band, UHF or not, when they can use 900mHz and not have interference? Fortunately, they were not foolish enough to just hop on a UHF business band and begin transmitting AGAIN. MURS did what they needed at the time; VHF worked good enough. 900 mHz now works even better for them as they don't have the interference they did with MURS or would have with UHF itinerant frequencies or even FRS.

Also, "staff and management" could've used FRS. There was and is nothing stopping them except for the high probability of interference.

I keep forgetting we're talking about Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart / Sam's Club is one big company that it seems that they write their own rules. I can imagine when it comes down fair labor practices, Wal-Mart is always in the news about something. Whether it's failure to pay overtime or denying benefits for associates who work over 20 hours, but under 35 hours. So, I wouldn't surprise if Wal-Mart was Cited on occasions by the FCC for something.

 

[moochie]

From what I understand, the Curve radios are programmed with a 4 digit code so that everyone is on the same code. Heard it is the same for all the stores.