Walmart

[emtbls1987]

Anyone know want the PL or DPL tones for there frequency’s? They are using tones because I can hear the end part of the transmission that has that tone part to it ?

 

[emtbls1987]

I’m talking Kalispell, and polson mt ? Anyone have a scanner and can listen to 154.6000 and see what the tone is or knows

 

[ltginrage]

What scanner/software are you using? Most scanners can search for the PL/DPL tone.

 

[Reconrider]

Go sit in the parking lot like the rest of us and use close call or program in frs, and all business channels. You'll find it sooner or later.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

If the frequency is known but not the tone, just enable your tone search. With that said, some common frequencies & tones are as follows. Two possibilities for 154.600 are 71.9 & 136.5, but if a tone isn't detected, then assume CSQ. Source links here and here

467.8125	WalMart UHF A	179.9
154.5700	WalMart VHF A	CSQ
154.6000	WalMart VHF B	CSQ
154.6000	WalMart VHF B1	71.9

 

[Binger511]

Anyone know want the PL or DPL tones for there frequency’s? They are using tones because I can hear the end part of the transmission that has that tone part to it ?

I'm not sure you understand the meaning of "tones". CTCTSS tones, or PL codes, are a sub-audible (not detectable by the human ear) technology that will only open the squelch if they are on that exact sub-audible frequency. From what I've found, most Walmart's don't use tones and are CSQ. Without using tones, there is a short burst of static which you may be confusing for these "tones", or possibly a roger beep.

From a listening standpoint, you do not need any CTCSS codes set, only if you have the intent of transmitting, so they can hear you.

Keep in mind, Walmart isn't very keen on people transmitting on their channel the channel they use, and don't ask me how I know.... but they will threaten to call the Police and claim your violating FCC rules, (even though completely legal) so be aware.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

From a listening standpoint, you do not need any CTCSS codes set, only if you have the intent of transmitting, so they can hear you.

Well it does help for rx in a multi-retailer environment since the possibility may exist that two or more stores in the same area may be operating on the same business frequency. I know of a few shopping centers in my area where multiple retailers in the same strip use silver star (467.850) & gold star (467.875) just with different tones...

 

[Binger511]

Well it does help for rx in a multi-retailer environment since the possibility may exist that two or more stores in the same area may be operating on the same business frequency. I know of a few shopping centers in my area where multiple retailers in the same strip use silver star (467.850) & gold star (467.875) just with different tones...

On a slightly larger scale, I know of a communications company that has a school bus company and a snow plow service all on the same legacy repeater system. It actually works perfect since here in the 'Burgh, anytime a snowflake hits the ground they cancel school, so the plows can use it like it's their own private repeater.

 

[Reconrider]

but they will threaten to call the Police and claim your violating FCC rules, (even though completely legal) so be aware.

if you're blatantly interfering with them, then it is against the FCC rules. But if you're having a "normal" conversation with someone about shopping and what not, then no laws are being broken other than walmart being butt hurt (lol)

 

[RichardKramer]

The 4 Walmarts that I get to here in Berks Co PA, 2 use csq, 1 uses 67.0 pl, the other 79.7 pl; all are on 154.570.

Rich

 

[W1KNE]

The frequency of 154.6000 is an itinerant frequency. Which means it doesn't get coordinated and is subject to whatever interference may occur.
Intentionally transmitting on a frequency, however, preventing its use in a store or with any business, is considered intentional jamming, and that is a violation of FCC law. They can have the enforcement bureau go after that. Also, It's intentional disrupting of business. Which is the law in all states (called different things in different states, all are types of this commerce or business interference). You can be arrested for that. Fairly recently that happened in Michigan where kids were causing interference to the legacy drive through system at a fast food restaurant.

 

[emtbls1987]

I’m not transmitting it’s so I can block out other MURS because Walmart does operate on MURS frequencies which people can use as long as its in the FCC declared frequencies. But I’m just using to to block out other interference is all

 

[Binger511]

claim your violating FCC rules, (even though completely legal) so be aware.

I misspoke. While it is illegal to cause intentional interference, the rules are kind of iffy on transmitting on license by rule frequencies. The likelihood of someone getting the authorities are, I'd say extremely low, it could happen though.

I’m not transmitting it’s so I can block out other MURS because Walmart does operate on MURS frequencies which people can use as long as its in the FCC declared frequencies. But I’m just using to to block out other interference is all

Any CTCSS code should work, as 99% of Walmart's (at least near me), that use MURS, are CSQ.

 

[RaleighGuy]

I’m not transmitting it’s so I can block out other MURS because Walmart does operate on MURS frequencies which people can use as long as its in the FCC declared frequencies. But I’m just using to to block out other interference is all

While these are fairly low powered freqs, it is doubtful you'll hear them any further than the parking lot. and even more unlikely you'll receive interference from other users inside the parking lot or store. But the best response above came from @Whiskey3JMC giving you the wiki pages to lead you in the right direction.

 

[ecps92]

If you are hearing "tones" at the end of a transmission, those are not likely PL/CTCSS or DPL/DCS tones

PL is generally sub-audible, those tones might be radio ID being sent ? [typically found in Public Safety not Commercial Radios]

Anyone know want the PL or DPL tones for there frequency’s? They are using tones because I can hear the end part of the transmission that has that tone part to it ?