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Technically, it's more for strain relief but it does help with rotator as well. This way there's no strain on the BNC jack.

I'm tempted to replace the PVC with a 5ft piece of EMT and then bolt the 6" loop mast inside the EMT. This would keep the loop from dancing in windy conditions.

Then I realized that the dancing helps to keep rain off the loop. :D
 
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Thanks for this thread Nick. I'll be ordering a Wellbrook and rotator. My 100' end fed wire is getting too much noise, regardless of the placement, and I need to quit messing around. Testing is complete. Time to move forward on both antenna and radio.

P.S. Thank you, and Ridge as well, on the heads up regarding the Grundig 750. I bought one thinking I would use it for camping, but that thing is not much better than the G5 portable, in my testing. Returned it after several days and I'll just use the money towards the Wellbrook and a 718.
 

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Returned it after several days and I'll just use the money towards the Wellbrook and a 718.

Do you mean an Icom 718? Just be very careful! RF into the Wellbrook power inserter/preamp will fry it very quickly! :)

It's an Rx antenna only and I would recommend a SDR versus the 718 for a receive station.

If you're looking to transmit then I would probably consider the 718 and use a dedicated antenna -- and save the Wellbrook for the SDR.
 

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Heh yeah xtra crispy! I was figuring on getting the Technician soon and figured the Icom 718 would give me room to grow with a General later, but I'm more of an SWL letting others do the work. I figured on using the Wellbrook more often than not. The license is mainly for some HT fun and then I thought the 718 could play double duty, with different antennas of course.

Hmm...SDR. My concern there is the RF interference from the computer itself. I have to shut everything down and can only use an iPad in the same room because of the noise. I would presume that even with a long connection cable, that I'd still have all kinds of noise coming through. I really haven't looked into SDR, so I honestly don't know.

Ahhh...well I guess I shouldn't rush into anything, other than getting that Wellbrook, as that seems like an obvious solution for my ills, regardless of what I use as a receiver down the line.
 

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ha! yeah - might as well set my money on fire leaving the mike attached.

I don't really need the 718, I just figured double-duty for the money, but of course then I need to outlay cash for a dipole, filters, PSU, etc, etc $2000 later...when I really just like to listen. You know I'm probably fine with an HT for transmitting.

Anyways now Nick has me thinking about a software controlled receiver, which might be the best solution. I could easily throw that in a bag when traveling for several months. Hopefully I'll have an informed conclusion over the weekend from reading up.

I'm jacking this thread. must...stop...t y p i n g
 

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..I don't really need the 718, I just figured double-duty for the money, but of course then I need to outlay cash for a dipole, filters, PSU, etc, etc $2000 later...when I really just like to listen. You know I'm probably fine with an HT for transmitting....

The 718 pulls about 750ma on receive, so your power supply can be something very light. Something like the Astron 4A would be fine for receive. And, it is a linear supply, so you don't have to worry about switching noise. I have that combo, although I normally run from small rechargeable AGM batteries.

"Low end" amateur radios that do mostly swl service aren't that bad really. You don't need razor-sharp filters, and the 718 has a 2.4khz ceramic ssb filter that you can use for narrow am. You can use ECSSB - use either sideband, zero-beat the signal, and tweak your IF-shift if necessary to get a narrow am filtering. Here the ceramic filter does nicely being a bit wider skirts than your equivalent mechanical or crystal filter.

And they mate nicely to small loops, where you are maximizing the S/N ratio, and not trying to peg the s-meter. The lower end rigs typically don't have contest-rated dynamic range, but with a small loop, you may not encounter this problem often. You may never have to use the attenuator or rf-gain at all with a small loop.

Another option is the Alinco DX-R8, which I am enjoying, although like all small radios, the buttons are kind of tight and a few other quirks, but overall I think is a good value. Or the SR8 transceiver with the same receiver board. Of course there are many many ways to go with this, but the point is that lower end receivers mated to small loops aren't that bad of a combo, unless you have very specific needs.
 
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I'm using an 8" gray, threaded nipple and slip-on thread adapter to mate the loop. The Wellbrook has a .748" aluminum mast that is about 6" and it fits with the 3/4 nipple very tight. There's zero movement there. Just to be safe I wrapped that end with a few turns of electrical tape.

I guess I am not following how you made your connection to PVC? I tried using a 1/2 inch threaded nipple to the Wellbrook mount and no joy.

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I'm using an 8" gray, threaded nipple and slip-on thread adapter to mate the loop. The Wellbrook has a .748" aluminum mast that is about 6" and it fits with the 3/4 nipple very tight. There's zero movement there. Just to be safe I wrapped that end with a few turns of electrical tape.

I guess I am not following how you made your connection to PVC? I tried using a 1/2 inch threaded nipple to the Wellbrook mount and no joy.

(quote feature not working for me.)

Why did you use 1/2 inch? I say very plainly that it's 3/4 inch. The aluminum post slides inside the 3/4 nipple.

Here's the 3/4 nipple -- did you buy the wrong size?

I used electrical tape to keep the loop from spinning in the nipple.

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Shop LASCO 3/4-in dia. PVC Sch 80 Nipples at Lowes.com
 
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This adapter mates the 5ft PVC to the 3/4" nipple. The 5ft side is a flush-fit. The other doesn't screw in -- it just wedges inside the adapter.

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Ok, I see how you have it. I wish there was a north american mount, I am going to look at other options. Thanks Nick.
 
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