Were you once a HAM, quit activity, let your license expire and never looked back?

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I was licensed almost 30 years ago and was active with the club in that area. Moving around the country over the years, I've found it a little hard to get "in" with the local hams. At least in the areas I've lived in. Even now, the local hams seem to like the area repeaters quiet for some reason.I've always kept my license active and kept it for "emergency" purposes. It got to the point that I sold off all my gear 15 years ago. I kick myself now. Sure, the gear I have now is better, but it still would be nice to have all the gear I sold off years ago. Especially my Santec ST-142! I loved that HT.
 
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Ah ! there seems to be a common thread running thru here.... like - is it the lack of fulfillment in the hobby... is it missing a certain 'something?"

I get asked quite often "what is it that interests you in your hobby...?"

....... and I generally don't attempt to explain it. I don't think my answers matter much. I will say that for me its a platform. I love science and I can build upon that platform- amateur radio- what ever poetry I want it to be at that moment.

I am a retired physicist.... and today ham radio allow me to - at long last ! :giggle: - play to my heart's content with the sciences I loved for a living .
My current ham'ing cycle has brought me back to my radars, but as the snow melts it may soon be mountain topping SOTA's..... the sunspots means neat chats with the world.... I once tried my luck on the new 2300 metre band, do I hear it calling to me......?

But this amateur radio license is my platform.... what I do with it is limited only by my imagination.

Lauri :sneaky:

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I don't get some of amateur radio - Parks OTA, Summits OTA, Cemeteries OTA, Field days [especially those in abandoned mall parking lots], EMCOMM, ARRL membership, QST magazine, etc.

Sticking to what I like and leaving the rest to others.
 

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I got my licence in 1983 and straight into the top Grade 1 on the basis of my marine radio officer's ticket but I had to do 6 months on 80 and 40m and get 30 contacts before I could go on to all the NZ bands. This was when we lived on the top of a ridge with a gentle slope to the sea about 5 miles away in a somewhat older house, magnificent take-off to the northwest and lots of world-wide contacts - I still have the log book somewhere. Decided to moved upmarket a bit but for some reason, although I put up the same antenna, I wasn't getting out anywhere near as well as before. Reception was good, so I reconnected with my earlier SWLing interest and I discovered the VHF bands. There was no FM VHF broadcasting in NZ until the late 80's. Jobs changed and we moved down to the South Island - I sold my FT901DM and its ancillary parts and carried on SWLing , VHFing and making and restoring stuff but I was losing interest due to the 'all work and no play' effect as I was an avionic engineer and getting saturated with electronics and radio. I retired in 2010 and moved again back to the North Island so now I am just cruising through life - I have a 2m/70cm rig in the car which I use to pass the boredom of driving 500km to visit my step-daughter and her kids, plenty of radios to play with, restore, tune up and then give to friends and rellies for birthdays and Christmas. My licence is still valid, there's no "use it or lose it" here and I try to keep up with the technology, my grand-daughter helps me out with my new smart phone! I have other interests too so I'm quite happy.
 

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"For me ?... why, there are endless cutting edge things for me to explore. Like how many have ever experimented with pulse modualton ?

Hmmmm... once again I travel back in time to a saga of mis-spent youth I shall call "Fun with X-band"... access to mil-surplus
components, (Gunn oscillators, anyone?) the heyday of the 55 MPH National Speed Limit (1975-6 IIRC) and countless participants
(unknowingly) in the game, most all of who were equipped with govt.-issued (read: taxpayer-funded) Kustom Signals TR-6 and a few
early MPH K55 units. There are probably still a few of those operators wondering how a... for instance '58 GMC 1-ton farm flatbed
could clock at 164 MPH....:unsure:
 

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I don't get some of amateur radio - Parks OTA, Summits OTA, Cemeteries OTA, Field days [especially those in abandoned mall parking lots], EMCOMM, ARRL membership, QST magazine, etc.

Sticking to what I like and leaving the rest to others.
Like my late dad would say, "That's the beauty of the beast"... all kinds of things to try and see which ones appeal to you.

I find this logic also applies to the numerous Buffets offered by the casinos here in my home state of NV...
 

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If it's any motivation to get back in............. solar cycle 25 is looking to be a humdinger! Even 10 meters been open a lot lately! Sadly, I'm confined to the WebSDR's on the web until next month when I can buy a radio.
 

BMDaug

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I also cannot wait for the snow to melt so I can try some SOTAing! Ham radiogives me more of a purpose when I’m hiking anywhere. It’s a reason to chill out on a peak for a while. Seems a lot more meaningful than just getting to the top, snapping another photo, and heading back down… some of the other OTAs are a little wacky for me, but if you aren’t in an area with lots of summits, I totally get it!
 

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I've had a couple periods of inactivity based on location or circumstances, but I never let the license lapse. When I run out of new & interesting stuff to do via Amateur Radio (I should live that long), I'll start over.
 

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Did the hobby no longer seem "cutting edge enough" for you?
With everyone I knew running off to HF and the commercial radio advancing at a much higher rate, I just left after a couple years but jumped back on here and there just to jump back off because of the politics.

Did it get too "commercial"?
Ham radio is commercial in its own way, and its not a good way

Did your favorite hang out or mode dry up and fade away?
For the most part, it did and I blame that on HF. I only got into Ham Radio for the 50MHz and higher bands. I was sick of listening to and fighting with CB radio when it came to band conditions and listening to constant static. I also wanted local and quiet, not distant and noisy.

Were there local politics that put a damper on your enthusiasm"?
There was and still is these politics that are a fixture in Ham Radio. Its called "Get your license and conform to "Ham Radio" and upgrade your license and buy the most expensive radio equipment and have the biggest setup or you're a nobody. Ya know, the ol' CB radio attitude. Its still like that. I listened to 7.2MHz one day where someone was getting destroyed over the air over the setup they had and much more. Lots of swearing, degradation, music playing and other animalistic noises.

Were too many of your buddies dying off?
If you call getting sucked down into HF, then yes!

Was it getting too expensive?
Expensive? HA! Most Ham Radio equipment is not even in my price range with the exception of VHF and UHF equipment and even some of that is overpriced because of a Ham Radio brand name. I should not and neither should anyone else be forced to spend over $1,000 for HF equipment so that they can be heard like all the other guys who sit on well over $10,000 worth of HF equipment. I can buy a CB radio with all the bells and whistles for a fraction of the price of an HF radio and I can do the same exact job with a CB. Why? That's like slapping the word "organic" on food and you see the price go through the roof. Same thing with Ham Radio. Slap Ham Radio on a radio and the price goes through the roof.

Was the XYL an issue?
Nope

Was it due to lack of time?
Partially

Did the internet play a part in leaving Amateur Radio?
Nope. In fact it saved me. I live in the worst possible place for radio. Unless I want to spend over $10,000 on a setup and go through the grueling part of learning all that garbage to upgrade to general that I will never use on HF, I'm better off using internet based radio. Internet allows me to use DMR. As it sits right now, I only have one DMR repeater near me and the thing is hardly ever online. Most hams around me have abandoned the VHF band and UHF is dead. So thank you internet and pistar.

I got licensed back in 1996. Hams were very active in the community, well known by most, and were very active on the VHF and UHF bands. Around the late 90's and early 2000's things went dead. There was this push to get hams off the VHF bands and down onto HF. Because I had no interest in HF I got out of it. I hopped on repeaters once and awhile but for the most part went to other radio services because I was and always have been a local guy when it came to radio. Due to some incident that happened with a newer ham who thought he was all that and a bag of chips, I cancelled my license. Years later things changed and I now live in another state. I decided to get back into it because of the newer digital voice modes. There is literally hardly anyone on them. I have been told to my face that if I want to talk to others on Ham Radio, I need to upgrade my license and get on HF because that is where the action is. From what I have witnessed when it comes to HF, It sounds like a CB radio down there. No one identifies with their call except for when they are getting off the air. Swearing and derogatory comments especially about women are mutually accepted. Music playing is allowed. I got into Ham Radio because of the "professionalism" that I heard on the repeaters. I didn't care for the loose conversation heard on CB radio. I also was turned off by this middle school mentality when it came to who had the biggest baddest radio setup. I'm not saying that all of HF or Ham Radio for that matter is like that, but enough of it is to the point where I currently don't want to get involved with that crowd. I leave Ham Radio as a tool in my bag of radio communication in case I ever need it. The one thing that bothers me is that no one in my community really even knows what ham radio is. Ive been asked numerous times what fire department I am with. When I tell them that I am a ham radio operator, I get this contorted look from the person. I then mention Amateur radio. Again, they have no clue. I then tell them "ya know, the guys who talk around the world on their radios". I am then met with "oh yeah, my grandfather talks on CB radio". 25 years ago, people knew what ham radio was. Now, no one knows. So, I just leave Ham radio as what it is - a tool in my bag of communications. I am a radio communications guy, NOT a Ham Radio operator. I just happen to hold a Ham Radio License.
 
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".....Hmmmm... once again I travel back in time to a saga of mis-spent youth I shall call "Fun with X-band"... access to mil-surplus
Cool story 6079 .... :giggle:

We were probably on the same same wavelength years ago.... your tale brought back this memory and a similar Post I wrote on the Forums a few years ago-----

"As a graduate student I had access to some pretty neat laboratory toys- one was this Gunn diode transmitter module, similar to what's called a "Gunnplexer." This little module with its attached horn antenna put out quite a beefy signal on 10GHz. As a teaching assistant I used it to demonstrate microwave thingys all the time in the undergrad labs....."

"......Enter into this picture another grad student.... we'll call the Fellow Conspirator.
Who suggested it is lost to history, but one subsequent evening found the two of us on a hill beside an overpass on Interstate (blank) in the Bay Area (California) - the 'Plexer' and a bottle of wine.
The 'Plexer' with its associated peripherals- batteries, modulator etc.- were all arranged neatly on and about a short tripod.... The 'Plexer' pointing south down the Interstate toward the on coming traffic
I trust by now everyone has figured out what we were up to :p.
"With 17dbm's into that horn we should be heard clear down in Tiajuana !
"..........."


This is taken from--
Post #79, "Is Ham Radio Doomed?" 12 July 2019

If it sounds interesting (?)... the rest can be found at:

Those were zany days !

Lauri :sneaky:

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Those were zany days !

There's zero point in having access to equipment like that if you don't have a little fun with it.

My old manager asked me once when I submitted a purchase order for some radio equipment: "I'm not buying you guys toys, am I?"

Of course he was, with some legitimate usage mixed in.
 

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When I was a kid I read a book titled, "Today I Am A Ham". It was a fun read for a 4th grader and the idea of Amateur Radio stuck with me.

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Fast forward to my BBS days of the early 80's it was a blast on the local boards, later more so on FidoNet and in the mid 90's I bought a device to hook my BC-200XLT up to the RS-232 port on my PC that would decode the output of the local AX.25 (Packet) traffic. At that point, I simply had to get on Packet Radio, so I got my ticket. Once I did that, it was a trip down the rabbit hole, I ended up working R0MIR, and the ISS on both Packet and voice, but damn, the expense for the TNC's, antennas, rotors, coax, radios and everything else was steep at the time (I was still raising kids), but then something happened... people starting passing traffic over the Internet instead of the HF nodes, and guys were dropping out. To me it was not "radio" if the Internet was being used as a crutch. Packet started slowly dying, as well as many of the people I talked to on simplex and on the local repeaters. I had no interest in APRS and there was not enough activity on Packet anymore to even bother checking in daily, and Packet was the reason I entered the hobby.

Now HF never appealed to me as I don't like static and unpredictable conditions or spending so much money simply to talk for the sake of
talking to people I don't know was not for me.

One day I disconnected my equipment to reorganize the shack, but never got around to hooking it back up. I went on with life and didn't really miss it. Cellphones/Smartphones became cheap, so I could talk, text, photo or video to almost anyone anywhere on the planet without spending untold thousands on equipment or having to pass traffic... and the smartphone fit in my hand, so no need to spend money on SSTV or ATV equipment or all the other accessories.

Now I'm older, cutting back at work, so I have more spare time, but honestly I'm content to simply listen and use the Internet to "chat" with people without having to deal with all the radio equipment and accessories. Not only that, even though I have more spare time, it's taken up with so many other hobbies.
 
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Am I reading some things here that sound like sour grapes ??

And why do I say sour grapes?
Well, If the people here that seem to be complaining about the passing of their hobby are taking a lot of time to complain about the passing of their hobby --then maybe they have some deeper unresolved issues. If ham radio is now so meaningless, why all that bother ?

My friend Barb and I will often solve all the problems of the world over a bottle of Jack Daniel's-- but one thing we never get around to is talking about our Ex's... if an ex ever broach's the discourse they seem to be instantly dismissed as "we are So past that." Maybe its a female thing, but we both tend to equate any too-extensive an explanation/apology as perhaps there is something just a little more going on beneath the surface.

I won't disparage the lengthy, thought out reasons so many may have for abandoning their ham radios- but.......

"..........The lady doth protest too much, methinks" *

Lauri

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Never let your license expire. I been Ham tech license for 20 years. I don't use ham radio much, not a lot of stuff going on in my area, but I have repeaters programmed in my Kenwood tk-5210. It great to know if you don't have a way to call for help by phone, come up on ham repeater and someone can help. Its great thing to have and its hobby i can get busy again when Im older and have way more time.
 

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".....Hmmmm... once again I travel back in time to a saga of mis-spent youth I shall call "Fun with X-band"... access to mil-surplus
Cool story 6079 .... :giggle:

We were probably on the same same wavelength years ago.... your tale brought back this memory and a similar Post I wrote on the Forums a few years ago-----

"As a graduate student I had access to some pretty neat laboratory toys- one was this Gunn diode transmitter module, similar to what's called a "Gunnplexer." This little module with its attached horn antenna put out quite a beefy signal on 10GHz. As a teaching assistant I used it to demonstrate microwave thingys all the time in the undergrad labs....."

"......Enter into this picture another grad student.... we'll call the Fellow Conspirator.
Who suggested it is lost to history, but one subsequent evening found the two of us on a hill beside an overpass on Interstate (blank) in the Bay Area (California) - the 'Plexer' and a bottle of wine.
The 'Plexer' with its associated peripherals- batteries, modulator etc.- were all arranged neatly on and about a short tripod.... The 'Plexer' pointing south down the Interstate toward the on coming traffic
I trust by now everyone has figured out what we were up to :p.
"With 17dbm's into that horn we should be heard clear down in Tiajuana !
"..........."


This is taken from--
Post #79, "Is Ham Radio Doomed?" 12 July 2019

If it sounds interesting (?)... the rest can be found at:

Those were zany days !

Lauri :sneaky:

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That's some funny stuff right there! Hmm; I need to dust off my gunn plexers!
 

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I have been hanging out on one of those 2600 threads where once hip, now very old, folks are reminiscing about the "good old days" of Blue Boxes, coin phones and BBS's. It occurred to me that the BBS world was a pretty wonderful thing and was a resilient piece of distributed infrastructure. Then I remembered modems don't work anymore because of those damn VoIP phone lines. A thought just appeared out of nowhere. Can we Hams reconstruct the BBS infrastructure and somehow link all of this, not with fancy mesh networked IP, not with AX25, but good old 9600 baud radio modems, maybe 900 MHz ISM so that the rules are lets say, a bit "fuzzy"?
 

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Then I remembered modems don't work anymore because of those damn VoIP phone lines.

Easily fixed. We ran modems over analog lines on a hybrid PBX that had IP between sites up until recently.
And I still carry a butt set in my truck. In fact, I used it last night. I've got quite a collection now as our techs don't want to carry them anymore and give them to me.

Our OES is putting in for a grant for SHARES HF equipment. One of our PD sergeants and I are both hams and have offered to test it periodically for, uh, proper operation. Yeah. All these years of holding off on buying an HF radio might be solved thanks to a state grant.
-I love my job-
 
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