What do you use to Monitor the Railroad ?

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It's interesting how many people use ham or commercial equipment for RR listening. I don't think there's any other service where there's that many people doing that.

The commercial equipment is much better built and last a lot longer. If you were to put a 396XT next to a Motorola Saber and listened to the differences between the two, you would toss the 396XT in the trash. (of course, I would be there to take it out and use it for other things!) :D
 

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The Motorola Spectras are being phased out. This is what I'm seeing being install:

http://www.argointl.com/Ideavate/Files/12RII_hi.pdf

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Motorola ones they sure do sound good. GE's one can be loud expecially being about 15 feet away from it with the loco idleing. Don't kow about the JEM radios. Now CSX has issed Kenwood Handhelds and Kenwood Mobile rados . they both sound real good and the big plus they have all the Railroad Channels from what i seen . So if ya get rolled to another sub then you can carry the radio with ya as it would work with the other subs with the older Motorola it would have to be reprogramed .
 
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Motorola ones they sure do sound good. GE's one can be loud expecially being about 15 feet away from it with the loco idleing. Don't kow about the JEM radios. Now CSX has issed Kenwood Handhelds and Kenwood Mobile rados

CSX has been replacing all of their radios with the GE 12R radios, which kills the rumor that CSX is jumping to digital right away since the GE radios will not do any digital operation. The JEM radios had some problems with the contact plate behind the DTMF keys (it was made of aluminum, so contact was poor - they are replacing these pieces with copper ones I'm told, eliminating the problem). I have seen quite a few DME/ICE units out here lately that have the new Ritron radios installed...funny enough, these units seem to have very frequent radio problems too (the signal is frequently incomprehensible - lots of crackling, static, and cutting in and out, even when the unit is 1000' away).

CSX has been installing Kenwood NX-700s in yard offices, MOW vehicles, you name it. Crews are being issued Kenwood NX-200s. Both radios are excellent and run circles around the Icoms they replaced - everyone I've talked to has been very impressed with them. Of course, with all the abuse conductors give them working on the ground, I doubt many of them will ever see digital operations before having to be replaced.
 

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If I'm not mistaken those Kenwood NX-700's and the NX-200's can be later on have a digital board added to them at a later date .
 

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If I'm not mistaken those Kenwood NX-700's and the NX-200's can be later on have a digital board added to them at a later date .

The Kenwood NX series radios will do NEXEDGE digital right out of the box. The Icom equivalents are the ones that require an add-on board to do digital operations.
 

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Which is the NXDN digital protocall like Icom is useing . When they go digial then the Icom F5061 with the digital chip should hear the kenwood units that is in digital also .
 
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Motorola ones they sure do sound good. GE's one can be loud expecially being about 15 feet away from it with the loco idleing. Don't kow about the JEM radios. Now CSX has issed Kenwood Handhelds and Kenwood Mobile rados . they both sound real good and the big plus they have all the Railroad Channels from what i seen . So if ya get rolled to another sub then you can carry the radio with ya as it would work with the other subs with the older Motorola it would have to be reprogramed .

They may sound good but what you said is ghastly wrong. All railroad radios are pre-programmed with each AAR channel (yes even 2-6 which are Canadian only) so that if our units go there or vice versa they can be used quite easily. All you have to do is press, iirc, CH+0202 and you'll be on channel 2 or to go from 2 to 40 you'd press CH+4040, so NO the motorola equipment doesn't have to always be re-programmed if you switch subs, regions, districts, or even railroads!


karldotcom : thats not relevent .

I'm trying to figure out can a Icom IDAS rig can hear a Kenwood Nexedge in the digital mode not trunked . Edited : found the info that i was looking for http://forums.radioreference.com/ra...-more-csx-digital-nonsense-2.html#post1227960

I think to the wide view of this thread it is relevant. Wasn't it, "What do you use to Monitor the Railroad?"...I'm in no way trying to be Forum Cop (I don't like those guys anyway) but I just wanted to help a new guy who I know out. :)

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-Frank C.
*TYPED and SENT FROM MY iPHONE 3G*
 

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sorry about that i wasn't looking at it correctly i was typing half asleep at 12 or 1 this morning lol sorry abou tthat .W2CSX thanks for the info and man i like your call also you must be a CSX fan hi hi . CJ KJ4PIU
 

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I don't know who builds the GE 12R locomotive radio, but my guess is that it's built by a third-party to GE's specification. Aside from that radio, yes, GE is out of the land-mobile radio business.
 

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I don't know who builds the GE 12R locomotive radio, but my guess is that it's built by a third-party to GE's specification. Aside from that radio, yes, GE is out of the land-mobile radio business.

GE builds these radios.
 

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Moto Astro Saber III in a II housing, MTS2000, and 2 Icom F1020 mobiles.
 

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The most recent FCC equipment authorization granted to GE Transportation systems for the GE 12R has FCC ID AJT-12R3DV1. According to the documents submitted by Rogers Labs, the agent operating on behalf of GE Transportation in this matter, the radio is a repackaged Kenwood NX-700 (FCC ID: K44378601).

Earlier versions of the 12R, according to documents submitted to the FCC, were also repackaged Kenwoods.
 
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The most recent FCC equipment authorization granted to GE Transportation systems for the GE 12R has FCC ID AJT-12R3DV1. According to the documents submitted by Rogers Labs, the agent operating on behalf of GE Transportation in this matter, the radio is a repackaged Kenwood NX-700 (FCC ID: K44378601).

Earlier versions of the 12R, according to documents submitted to the FCC, were also repackaged Kenwoods.

Looking at the information on the radio on GE Transportation's website, the brochure for the 12R Series II talks about narrowband capabilities and 256 channels, but nothing pertaining to digital. One would assume that the NX-700 variation has not been released yet - is that correct? I am curious to see what CSX has been installing in their locomotives now that you brought up this bit of information...
 
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