What frequency does walmart use?

[gewecke]

Most likely
And what a lot of these "common business" frequencies i think are in the Motorola "Talkabout" line of radios or those small Motorola portables that you can get from Home Depot
Im not sure if these frequencies qualify as "GMRS" because that does require a license
Some companies do have GMRS licenses however i did not come across one for Walmart
The common freqs i dont think require a license just as long as the user dosent exceed a certain amount of power or use a repeater,etc...

YES, those common business freqs Do require a license, however many businesses fail to do this. The Gmrs frequencies fall between 462.550 - 462.725mhz. But anything else is not. :wink: 73, n9zas

 

[Hans13]

Most likely
And what a lot of these "common business" frequencies i think are in the Motorola "Talkabout" line of radios or those small Motorola portables that you can get from Home Depot
Im not sure if these frequencies qualify as "GMRS" because that does require a license
Some companies do have GMRS licenses however i did not come across one for Walmart
The common freqs i dont think require a license just as long as the user dosent exceed a certain amount of power or use a repeater,etc...

AFAIK, any business with a license for GMRS frequencies would have grandfathered frequency licenses and not GMRS licenses. The FCC won't issue a GMRS license to a business. Also, the only way they could legally be using bubble pack radios without license, again AFAIK, is if the radios are FRS radios only. If the radio contains FRS and GMRS frequencies, transmission requires a GMRS license even though they might only use FRS frequencies. (Pretty messed up, IMHO. There were notices sent out to emergency management groups explaining that unlicensed FRS radio use could only be counted upon in their plan if those radios were the 14 channel, FRS only, variety.)

We have a local hardware store that has been using bubble packs on one of the GMRS channels. Since one of the other channels is being jammed/interfered with 24/7, I need to talk to them about switching over to one of the FRS only channels. As it stands we only have 5 out of the 7 GMRS frequencies for repeaters that we can count on and the number of repeaters locally is starting to grow. By getting the hardware store to move we at least have six out of seven until we can identify the source wiping out the remaining channel.

 

[nd5y]

The common freqs i dont think require a license just as long as the user dosent exceed a certain amount of power or use a repeater,etc...

You're wrong. All business frequencies require a license. A few industrial/business pool frequencies don't require frequency coordination or can be coordinated and licensed for nationwide use. You may want to read about it at http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=service_home&id=industrial_business.
Only CB, MURS and FRS are licensed by rule and don't require station or operator licensing.

 

[Hans13]

Oops. Make that 8 GMRS channels.

 

[gewecke]

Oops. Make that 8 GMRS channels.

yep, correct. . Your hardware store is probably not licensed for Gmrs as few businesses still have valid licenses in the Gmrs. 73, n9zas

 

[Darkstar350]

You're wrong. All business frequencies require a license. A few industrial/business pool frequencies don't require frequency coordination or can be coordinated and licensed for nationwide use. You may want to read about it at FCC: Wireless Services: Industrial/Business: Industrial / Business Home.
Only CB, MURS and FRS are licensed by rule and don't require station or operator licensing.

I didnt mean that the entire industrial/business pool " IG " may not require a license - of course that does
I was referring to the "dot and star" frequencies of which i was not sure if those frequencies require licensing and yes some companies have nationwide licenses for simplex freqs...

As far as GMRS its also not clear whether the FCC will give a GMRS " ZA" license to a commercial business or not - which would make sense if they do not because i think GMRS is intended mainly for radio clubs/"React" type groups - and not commercial businesses on a for-profit basis...

That aside - Verizon does have a GMRS license which i know they use for on-site work ops, etc however them being a telcom carrier different rules may apply...

ULS License - General Mobile Radio (GMRS) License - KAD7936 - Verizon New Jersey Inc.

 

[ecps92]

a GMRS License by current rules, will not be issued to a Business or Government entity.

Your example of KAD7936 is one of the FEW still existing Grandfathered licenses, which did allow Business etc to license. As long as they make no changes to the license, it will live forever

I didnt mean that the entire industrial/business pool " IG " may not require a license - of course that does
I was referring to the "dot and star" frequencies of which i was not sure if those frequencies require licensing and yes some companies have nationwide licenses for simplex freqs...

As far as GMRS its also not clear whether the FCC will give a GMRS " ZA" license to a commercial business or not - which would make sense if they do not because i think GMRS is intended mainly for radio clubs/"React" type groups - and not commercial businesses on a for-profit basis...

That aside - Verizon does have a GMRS license which i know they use for on-site work ops, etc however them being a telcom carrier different rules may apply...

ULS License - General Mobile Radio (GMRS) License - KAD7936 - Verizon New Jersey Inc.

 

[ecps92]

But who reads the fine print or the manual (RTFM) , just turn on the radio and find a quiet frequency :roll:

yep, correct. . Your hardware store is probably not licensed for Gmrs as few businesses still have valid licenses in the Gmrs. 73, n9zas

 

[Hans13]

yep, correct. . Your hardware store is probably not licensed for Gmrs as few businesses still have valid licenses in the Gmrs. 73, n9zas

Pretty much. I couldn't seem to find a license for them in the FCC database and most, if not all, of the handhelds seem to be retail FRS/GMRS handhelds. Unfortunately, their store sits on higher elevation with an open lumberyard, giving them unusally good propagation.

 

[TampaTyron]

I worked for a company who repaired Walmart radios. It was 99.9% MURS 154.600 with a pl of 67.0 and 154.570 with a pl of 67.0.......Thousands and thousands of those little bastards. It was interesting repairing a radio that was designed to be disposable. TT

 

[Hans13]

because i think GMRS is intended mainly for radio clubs/"React" type groups - and not commercial businesses on a for-profit basis...

GMRS is intended mainly for families, as indicated by the familial-centric nature of licensing.

https://www.fcc.gov/general/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs

The GMRS is available to an individual (one man or one woman) for short-distance two-way communications to facilitate the activities of licensees and their immediate family members.

Good find on that grandfathered license. That's interesting.

 

[gewecke]

I worked for a company who repaired Walmart radios. It was 99.9% MURS 154.600 with a pl of 67.0 and 154.570 with a pl of 67.0.......Thousands and thousands of those little bastards. It was interesting repairing a radio that was designed to be disposable. TT

Every time I go to walmart (which I hate doing) I see those radios duct taped, antennas bent at 90 deg angles & sometimes the covering is gone lol. I'm surprised I can hear them from home, over a mile and a half away! Good luck repairing those little bastards! :lol: 73, n9zas

 

[Hans13]

If the radio contains FRS and GMRS frequencies, transmission requires a GMRS license even though they might only use FRS frequencies. (Pretty messed up, IMHO. There were notices sent out to emergency management groups explaining that unlicensed FRS radio use could only be counted upon in their plan if those radios were the 14 channel, FRS only, variety.)

I can't stand digests. YMMV!

https://www.fcc.gov/general/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs

If you operate a radio that has been approved for both FRS and GMRS, and if you limit your operations to the FRS channels with a maximum power of ½ watt effective radiated power and an integral antenna, you are not required to have a license. (Note that some dual-service radios transmit with higher power on FRS channels 1 through 7; these radios can be used without a license only on FRS channels 8 through 14.)