what scanner should i buy???

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kinimod

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Hi everybody! I'm new user here and i live in Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada. I 've listend to scanner about 12 years ago with the old system but i lost interest with time because i couldn't listen to the police departement anymore with their new system.... Now i'm back and i'm having hard time to learn all the new system (trunk,digital....) A good thing that a site like here exist! So, i'm looking to buy a new scanner because the ones i own are pretty out of date! (radio shack Pro 29 and Pro 26). First, is there anything good to do with these? Can i modified them for cellular band, if the 800 band is still use for cellular (which i doubt because a lot of things has changed in that field since i was listening to it 12 years ago...!)
I was wondering what kind of scanner do i need to listen to Sherbrooke's town police? I presumed it's a trunk system. The only thing i knew about their system is that, they had about 10 different frequencies in the 866.XXX-868.XXX mghz and every time someone release the button, you could hear like a little music... but by the time that ''music'' end, they already switched to an other frequency. So it was impossible for us to listen to the whole conversation unless you quickly hit the scan button and hope to get the rest of the conversation... So it wasn't a relaxing hobby! that's why i quit for a while. I would presume they still have the same system because it's been an expensive set-up and Sherbrooke isn't a major town (about 100 000 peoples) compare to others citys. I don't know if someone is familiar with that system, if it's digital or what... But i would like to buy a scanner that would be able to track it. I know that you can find triple trunking scanner for less than 100$ now on Ebay but if it's digital, it's much more... I don't feel like spending that much money if i'm not assured to listen to them... And there is still the question, which one to choose! I guess a mobile scanner has a stronger signal than a handheld, but is it much stronger if i add an antenna on my roof and use a handheld, so i can use it in my car too...
Which one should i choose between Pro 91, 92, 93, 94, 97, 164, 528, 2050... or should i go for Digital Pro-96 ???? these are some i've on Ebay but i know nothing about their advantages, fiability.... and i'm kind of impulsive buyer so i want to make sure i make a good choice! Not just go for the price... I mostly want to listen to emergency services (police, fire, ambulance...) and i don't want to spend 2 weeks just to learn how to program it! So, I'm waiting for all your good advices and don't forget to tell me if i can mod my old scanners, how to do it and where i could find frequencies for Quebec, Canada (because here, there ain't much...) Thank !HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU
 

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Hi and welcome to the forums :) As for a scanner to buy i would either go with the pro-96 or pro-2096, reason beings is most things nowadays are going digital..I believe by what you are describing the police,fie,ems in your area are ona trunked radio system, now whether it is digital or not i don't know, i tried looking in the data base but am not too familiar with quebec but here is the link http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?stid=111

This lists all the avail frequencies that are for your area..To make programming a little easier and smoother for ya, i highly recommend you try the Win96 or the ARC96 both are free to try for 30 days then after that you can purchase it for 30 bucks..As for the antenna ANY outdoor antenna will improve your listening ranch,whether its a discone or yagi antenna...But thier are some factors that come into that..You can use regular coax, but if your worried about signal lose, then go with some good coax like LMR-400 coax..As for the mods not entirley sure on that one, maybe someone else will pipe in here and give thier suggestion...Hope this helps ya :)
 

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Hi Kinimod, it's been a while since scanning ! Welcome back and on the forum.

I went thru the same questions you are going when I got back in scanning 2 years ago.

Not much to do with your old scanner in regard of today's technology, but a lot of listening can still be done in conventional depending on your interest. So I would keep at least one (Personnally I would keep them both, but it is just me !) to continue receiving conventoinal frequencies while listening to others on another scanner. SQ and a few others are still conventional for now. Not too much familiar with the "Estrie Area" but I'm sure a lot of FD and business are still in these. Take a lot as the DB http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=5209

Modify them ... hmm ... not worth it, all analogue cellular have gone digital (not listenable) and providers (Bell and Rogers) have shut down their analogue tower service - I think.

As for the Sherbrooke PD, forget about it they've gone "Provoice" (digital) and can not be listen to. Read about Provoice here : http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/EDACS_Provoice.

Considering that the government's own RENIR (APCO 25 network) is being built in Quebec and HQ is already migrating on an other APCO 25, I would considered going for a Trunktracker IV (APCO25) scanner if you want to listen to these. If not, at least a trunktracker III is the minimum to go.

With the last type you'll be at least able to listen to the Sherbrooke RSP network for users who are not using Provoice.

As for brand and model, it is always THE choice ! Uniden ... GRE ... or Radio-Shack ??? and then the budget ???

Me ? I' was a R-S guy, when they had stores in the province, and for my conventional listening. Then when I came back to scanning, I went Uniden for the trunktracking technology. Presently having a good experience with a GRE PSR-600 .... and considering buying the handheld version, a PSR-500, to add to my collection !

As a new "Quebec DB Admin", I consider that the "Estrie Area" of the DB need some data, so I would encourage you to visit our DB and submit valid and CONFIRMED information thru the link for that purpose in the DB if you have some - I need contributor from all the province !

Good luck in your decision making process !
 
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kinimod

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Hi, thank a lot for all your priceless informations! You just avoid me going nut and buy all the scanners i saw on Ebay! So i'll sit down and relax, think about it for a while... i'm not sure i really want to get in all the learning of the new technology and programming steps! I'll just get the CD of Quebec's frequency i saw in the add, check what i REALLY want to listen to, check what i still can do with my old scanners then what kind of scanner i would really need. I'll post some frequencies for you if you want to fill the Quebec's database. Thank again for all your precious infos and long life to this site!
 

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(Bell and Rogers) have shut down their analogue tower service - I think.
100% correct. Rogers abandoned their digital several years ago and last summer/fall Bell took theirs down too. Besides, for quite a while now current scanners were mandated to be "not easily modifiable to pick up cell frequencies".
 

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100% correct. Rogers abandoned their digital several years ago and last summer/fall Bell took theirs down too.

Not quite correct.

Rogers abandoned their old analog AMPS and IS-136 digital several years ago. They still have GSM and UMTS which are both digital services.

Bell Mobility abandoned it's analog service recently.
 

slypx

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Hi, thank a lot for all your priceless informations! You just avoid me going nut and buy all the scanners i saw on Ebay! So i'll sit down and relax, think about it for a while... i'm not sure i really want to get in all the learning of the new technology and programming steps! I'll just get the CD of Quebec's frequency i saw in the add, check what i REALLY want to listen to, check what i still can do with my old scanners then what kind of scanner i would really need. I'll post some frequencies for you if you want to fill the Quebec's database. Thank again for all your precious infos and long life to this site!

You're welcome ...

For the learning curve, I would consider investing an annual 30 $ into an RR "premium subcription" for these reasons : http://www.radioreference.com/apps/subscription/

Not to neglect, this will also allow you to download DB data directly from Radioreference with one of the (free and downloadable) programming software. Believe me, this could be a 30 $ very well spent. While doing this you can start learning to program and operate you new toy at the same time you are enjoying it.

All of today's radio can be software programmable and operated... fiou ... ! ... what a relief because programmaing a single trunking system manually could take all you spare time away :lol: !!!

As for the Quebec DB cd : Never seen what it contains... but the member who's doing it, is very reliable and he's known for publishing the only ever "Quebec only" BD book that was available in the 90's and title "Annuaire de fréquences du Quebec"

It is your call ... Considering that the CD is announced at different prices depending of the site you are looking at (between 10 and up to 55 us $ on Ebay ! ...) the investment for the CD or an annual 30 $ for the Premium subscription with all it's value is what you could have to decide between.

Have fun in your decision !
 

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Not quite correct.

Rogers abandoned their old analog AMPS and IS-136 digital several years ago. They still have GSM and UMTS which are both digital services.

Bell Mobility abandoned it's analog service recently.
'Scuse me Mis-type meant to say analog, I was agreeing with the quoted message!!
 
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