What's going on with 2m?

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AC2OY

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It's all I do in my spare time now. Bought a motorcycle almost three years ago I want to sell it and build a HF station in my room. For now my very first QSO sent me a package last week programmable software and a cable for my HT! I sent him a edible fruit basket...LOL Last weekend I made a QSO with a guy who sent me a new updated repeater list! Life I good can't wait for tomorrow!! I'll light a cigar,grab the HT and get crazy!!!
 

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Sorry but I didn't get a radio just to talk about radio.

if i wanted to hear people drone on all day about the radios they have I would have stayed with cb and listened to 24/7 radio checks
Funny thing is that there is still sometimes more activity on 11 Meters than on 2 Meters! I keep a 40 channel SSB CB in the shack just for amusement!
 

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Can't comment on Crappy Band as I refuse to listen to the filth and HHHHEEEELLLLLLOOOOO, etc.. Around here, 2 meter repeaters are quiet sometimes but active all day long at other times. And times are a changing. People are working longer days so leaves very little time for ham activities. Because flying is so easy today, and people are richer or going into debt more, they are flying away from the winters up here. Certainly, computers and smart phones are taking people away from ham radio. Just look at all the people with crooked necks from looking down at text messages [dangerous habit] so doesn't leave a lot of time for anything else. Makes me wonder how they even get their daily work done. But seeing that the Boston Marathon had between 150 to 250 radio operators this year shows that 2 m is busy at times. And there are only so many things one can talk about. At least we have the weather in Canada.
 

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I tried introducing a potential ham to 2M the other night and the first thing we heard turned him right off. Somebody was barely hitting the repeater and was in the noise trying to call someone. One of the load bearing suspendered orange vested 5 HT guys came on and began shouting "This is WXXX, you are in violation of the rules of this repeater! YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR CALLSIGN! UNAUTHORIZED OPERATION! STOP KERCHUNCKING!" This went on and on. My friend said "Why would I want to talk to him" and I don't blame him.


truthfully if I was to get a license today and turned on a HT (lets faces it new hams are not going to sink hundreds in HF stuff right of the bat) and heard dead air or every single qso was boring crap how's your grass growing topics or the grab your orange vest and 5 HTS on your belt and lets go "Save the day" crap.
 

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2 m ham

And by the same token most new hams think an ht is the end all be all of 2 meter. no one tells them that ht's are limited range radios.
 

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I tried introducing a potential ham to 2M the other night and the first thing we heard turned him right off. Somebody was barely hitting the repeater and was in the noise trying to call someone. One of the load bearing suspendered orange vested 5 HT guys came on and began shouting "This is WXXX, you are in violation of the rules of this repeater! YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR CALLSIGN! UNAUTHORIZED OPERATION! STOP KERCHUNCKING!" This went on and on. My friend said "Why would I want to talk to him" and I don't blame him.
Some of those abnormalities may just make it into the DSM-V.
 

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Some of those abnormalities may just make it into the DSM-V.

Luckily in my area the 2 meter people keep it professional. Even if others are acting like little kids I wouldn't let that stop me from trying to get someone into the hobby. Some people say that ham radio is dying out or slowing down. So I say the more the merrier and would try to point out the positive, just my 2cents..

I'm in my 50's & just getting ready to test and already have an old IC735. I think the more people on the air the better then deal with or ignore jerks on the air later:)
 

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Luckily in my area the 2 meter people keep it professional. Even if others are acting like little kids I wouldn't let that stop me from trying to get someone into the hobby. Some people say that ham radio is dying out or slowing down. So I say the more the merrier and would try to point out the positive, just my 2cents..

I'm in my 50's & just getting ready to test and already have an old IC735. I think the more people on the air the better then deal with or ignore jerks on the air later:)
We're close in age. I got my license when I was 14 and became an extra before I graduated high school. The reason I love this hobby is that you make it whatever you want it to be. If you want to talk to people, it's fine. If you want to build things, that's fine, too. And, when you get bored with something, there's something else to try. You don't even have to throw millions of dollars into it to get good results, like some other hobbies (although you could if you wanted). As long as you're having fun...

These days, all the guys who got their licenses in the 70s and set the hobby aside to raise a family are dusting off their radios and setting them back up if they can. Let's see if we start a second wave of activity. All of my kids and my wife are hams. Of the bunch, only my older son (16, a general) is a ham's ham. The others (including my extra older daughter, 20) use the radio. My son has made me check into HF nets, work DX, and do all kinds of things because he yells, "Hey Dad!" whenever he hears something new and interesting. No matter how bored or "been there, done that" I get of something, if he's interested, I'm interested, too.

And, remember, ham radio was the place where all of us geeky socially awkward people went and could be on equal footing back in the day. :p
 

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I tried introducing a potential ham to 2M the other night and the first thing we heard turned him right off. Somebody was barely hitting the repeater and was in the noise trying to call someone. One of the load bearing suspendered orange vested 5 HT guys came on and began shouting "This is WXXX, you are in violation of the rules of this repeater! YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR CALLSIGN! UNAUTHORIZED OPERATION! STOP KERCHUNCKING!" This went on and on. My friend said "Why would I want to talk to him" and I don't blame him.

If the guy was barely into the repeater, how could Mr. Repeater Boss know he hadn't ID'd properly?
 

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If the guy was barely into the repeater, how could Mr. Repeater Boss know he hadn't ID'd properly?
LOL. Some of the guys I've known years past would monitor the repeater input from their homes. I wouldn't be surprised if he was angry that the other station was marginal into the repeater.

I was reading through QST's feedback column and was disappointed at the geezers who say ham radio is hopeless and "do you hear the way these youngsters are operating today?" The thing that's missing is their guidance, but you can't be a mentor if you're a cranky old... you know what. I wonder what the boys from 1AW's time thought of the post-WWII hams and SSB.

We need to give people positive feedback and help them out when we can. The "Repeater Police" needs to be more like Tommy the friendly and helpful neighborhood cop instead of the instant SWAT commando team.
 

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We need to give people positive feedback and help them out when we can. The "Repeater Police" needs to be more like Tommy the friendly and helpful neighborhood cop instead of the instant SWAT commando team.

Well said!

On the local repeater I hang out on we have a lot of new hams (and probably some old ones too) that just love to kerchunk the repeater. I guess hearing the ID and courtesy tone is somehow reassuring to them? Instead of doing what I want to do and yelling "stop kerchunking the repeater! ID your station!" I instead key up and say "Sounds like someone was trying to get in, you were keying the repeater up. Try it again and I'll give you a signal report." Sometimes the kerchunker goes away for a while, and sometimes they come back and start a conversation. I'll recommend a better way, instead of kerchunking how about saying "This is call sign testing." Boom! They just got Elmered and didn't even know it. :)

Also, I remind new hams that there's more to radio than just 2 meters. I encourage them to upgrade and try HF. Or try 6 meter sideband with their Tech license. As soon as I get my home station set back up I plan on having a radio cookout once a month. Fire up the grill, invite over some new ham ops, let them tune around on HF and make a few contacts and see if that doesn't spark some interest in upgrading their license. Who knew you could be social in ham radio without attending club meetings? ;)
 

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I'll recommend a better way, instead of kerchunking how about saying "This is call sign testing." Boom! They just got Elmered and didn't even know it. :))

I have a suggestion: take a crap in your left hand, and put the wish for hams to say "this is xxx testing" in your right hand, and see which fills up first. :D
 

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Well said!

On the local repeater I hang out on we have a lot of new hams (and probably some old ones too) that just love to kerchunk the repeater. I guess hearing the ID and courtesy tone is somehow reassuring to them? Instead of doing what I want to do and yelling "stop kerchunking the repeater! ID your station!" I instead key up and say "Sounds like someone was trying to get in, you were keying the repeater up. Try it again and I'll give you a signal report." Sometimes the kerchunker goes away for a while, and sometimes they come back and start a conversation. I'll recommend a better way, instead of kerchunking how about saying "This is call sign testing." Boom! They just got Elmered and didn't even know it. :)

Also, I remind new hams that there's more to radio than just 2 meters. I encourage them to upgrade and try HF. Or try 6 meter sideband with their Tech license. As soon as I get my home station set back up I plan on having a radio cookout once a month. Fire up the grill, invite over some new ham ops, let them tune around on HF and make a few contacts and see if that doesn't spark some interest in upgrading their license. Who knew you could be social in ham radio without attending club meetings? ;)
Thank you, Brandon. You get it! I know myself pretty well and a smarta** comment from someone is likely to get it right back. I was just in a situation today where limited communication and not knowing someone gave me the wrong impression and it was a downward spiral from there. Once I got some face-to-face, everything was cleared up. We don't get any interaction by jumping someone's stuff. Now that's not to say some people are malicious, but new people really don't know. We get to shape them. A good deal of them, anyway. There are also some interesting characters out there who are just... different... (in an Exidor from Mork and Mindy way) but not necessarily bad.

Hey - don't forget to put a plug in for 10 meters! These days, one can catch the DX bug pretty easily by tuning the technician portion of 10. We had a CB to 10 thread here a while back where some fellows posted the crystal to change to convert CBs. But I love 6 meters - both SSB and FM. There is real sport in the band. There can be nothing and all of a sudden something happens and you're working hundreds to thousands of miles away.
 

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I have been corrected on the steps of my club and I thanked the guy for actually pointing out my error. I read something the other night that stated that on UHF or VHF your not supposed to use Q codes...talk like your on the telephone?! I listened for months on 70cm and 2 meters every response to a call is....LOL QSL or Roger,Roger. I guess the more you LISTEN and LEARN,the better you get.
 

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I have been corrected on the steps of my club and I thanked the guy for actually pointing out my error. I read something the other night that stated that on UHF or VHF your not supposed to use Q codes...talk like your on the telephone?! I listened for months on 70cm and 2 meters every response to a call is....LOL QSL or Roger,Roger. I guess the more you LISTEN and LEARN,the better you get.
Just don't say "10-4 Good Buddy", ask for someone's "20", or call anybody a "Mud Duck", and you should be fine.
 

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QSL....LOL that was funny but I hear you I wish I lived near the guy in Alabama!!! That would be fun!!! What was the call WB4CS?!

Yep, that's me! Too bad you're not closer to AL, I always welcome meeting hams I haven't met before. The Huntsville Hamfest is coming up in August, plenty of time to save up and come on down South!

Also, 902 thanks for your nice comment above as well.

The idea of the cookout came from another ham in my area. About 10 years ago he started having cookouts and inviting the local hams over. He had a great station set up, so everyone seemed a little envious of his shack. Each cookout there would always be one or two newer hams that would get their first taste of HF or DX and would leave there motivated to upgrade. Unfortunately I can't remember the guy's call sign that had the cookouts otherwise I'd give him credit.

Oh, and Fuzy, I get a laugh out of all the "QSL" "Roger That" on 2 meter FM. I mean, there's nothing against the rules about it so saying "QSL" doesn't warrant a stern talking to about it. It appears that the "gentlemen's agreement" of plain language above 6 meters is slowing going away. If you want a good laugh read the link in my signature about being a LID. :)
 

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Oh, and Fuzy, I get a laugh out of all the "QSL" "Roger That" on 2 meter FM. I mean, there's nothing against the rules about it so saying "QSL" doesn't warrant a stern talking to about it. It appears that the "gentlemen's agreement" of plain language above 6 meters is slowing going away.

So you never say "QSO" on 2 meters?
 
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