will georgia have a state wide p25 system?

[rapidcharger]

I know i seen ona another forum that so systems run as high as 35 million

They can cost a helluva lot more than that. And you can read about that stuff right here on Radio Reference. This site is a huge cheerleader for that stuff.

Why do they spend that kind of money when they don't have to when they don't even have the money to spend? Good question!
Especially when what they were using before lasted so long and didn't have the same problems. I guess to get your answer, you have to follow the money.

 

[t0xPro-197]

I don't think it's because they're poorly built. It's because when the radio is no longer a radio but a computer, the author of the software that controls the software and the network says this will have such and such expiration date before it's no longer supported and this radio will only work on this system and all other radios are blocked out or this type of encryption is what we're "throwing in" and that only works with a particular brand of radio. You also have NGO industry groups like APCO making recommendations that get readily adopted like they're the word of God that have been and continue to be the cause of such waste.
And it also helps to have a whole bunch of support on the inside to rally behind switching to something else because they stand to gain from it and the public doesn't know, doesn't understand or doesn't care.

A radio can be replaced easily by going to the system administrator or supply closet and pulling out another one. It's the software and all the complicated innards that dictate when a system's time is up.

That makes alot of sence too me.In other words they get tired of the program so they change it and we taxes payer foot the bill>such anice thing for our gov too do dont ya think?

 

[Metrofire31]

I whole-heartedly endorse MTS2000's comments. Public Safety personnel in Bainbridge don't need or want a radio system in which they can talk to the Fulton County Sheriff. If they need to talk to the FCSO, they pick up the telephone - remember that device? I've lived in Bainbridge and not being critical, but they like their small-town world and don't want the cost and contraptions associated with big city life. Having worked for the telecommunications industry for many years, the nice thing about a phone is that you can talk to anyone, anytime, anywhere and the cost is still dirt cheap! Besides, Georgia is the largest state (land wise) east of the Miss. River. Some states today with statewide systems are much smaller.

 

[micco]

I say statewide MOTOTRBO!! Because it works so well (note the HUGE amounts of sarcasm)...

 

[MTS2000des]

I whole-heartedly endorse MTS2000's comments. Public Safety personnel in Bainbridge don't need or want a radio system in which they can talk to the Fulton County Sheriff. If they need to talk to the FCSO, they pick up the telephone - remember that device? I've lived in Bainbridge and not being critical, but they like their small-town world and don't want the cost and contraptions associated with big city life. Having worked for the telecommunications industry for many years, the nice thing about a phone is that you can talk to anyone, anytime, anywhere and the cost is still dirt cheap! Besides, Georgia is the largest state (land wise) east of the Miss. River. Some states today with statewide systems are much smaller.

I agree, except on problem, the telecom cartels (Verizon, AT&T) want to eliminate their copper switched network, even in places where they don't have an IP network in it's place:

Six Months After Sandy, Verizon Abandoning Wired Network in Mantoloking, N.J. | Stop the Cap!

Problem with voice link is, it sucks as bad if not worse than cellphones. It relies on already bloated cellular infrastructure, has crappy audio (so crappy it cannot even support dial up internet, no fax machines, no credit cards, no wireless alarm monitoring).

In short, it ain't no ESS in a hardened C/O with a generator backup that not even WW3 could stop from working.

GETS my butt, these cartels aren't interested in hardening their networks, they have no reason to do so, it cuts into their profits. Back when we had THE BELL SYSTEM, that "evil government" had sensible regulation in place which required the BELL SYSTEM to perform to certain standards.

You actually could pick up a Western Electric phone and IT WORKED no matter where, when or what was going on. You had PEOPLE who realized their place in the system was not just a job, but a commitment to serving their community. They understand how vital the BELL SYSTEM was to their country. We HAD the best phone system in the world...

Until some morons in government, and corporate greed fubar'ed it. Now, we have such great "choice"...unreliable voice and data service, no customer support, bills that creep up loaded with junk fees and gotchas, contracts of adhesion, and an industry with an endless thirst to own every single piece of radio spectrum to rent it back to us, under their one sided terms of course.

Yeah, the Telecommunications Act of 1996 was a great idea. So was divestiture. NOT!

Public safety NEEDS a RELIABLE voice network, I'm sad to say the scraps that once was the greatest communications system on earth is not it.

 

[RRR]

Why would a 700-800 MHZ system be pushed for a rural area anyway?

Heck, lowband would be so much more suited for a lot of the areas in South Georgia I work in.

 

[Metrofire31]

Thanks, MTS2000! I wholeheartedly agree with your synopsis about the former BELL SYSTEM, which I worked for 32 years. Our company had its faults but the old network worked. Unfortunately, the times, regulatory policies, and our very enlightened DOJ (NOT) didn't like monopolies. Too bad they didn't understand economics. I appreciate your testimony - it means alot!!

 

[lep]

Thanks, MTS2000! I wholeheartedly agree with your synopsis about the former BELL SYSTEM, which I worked for 32 years. Our company had its faults but the old network worked. Unfortunately, the times, regulatory policies, and our very enlightened DOJ (NOT) didn't like monopolies. Too bad they didn't understand economics. I appreciate your testimony - it means alot!!

Again, metro ATL, as important as it is, is not Georgia. In my town, we NEVER had Bell, and we don't today. Because Bell was only driven by profit it was NEVER interested in extending telephone service to many smaller communities. For the same reason that the Southern Company, parent of Georgia Power was not interested in extending electrical service, so REA power came about, so did co-operative telephone companies. In my county, 32nd largest of the 159 Georgia counties, we still have two telephone companies, one for the city and one for the county. Neither one is a former Bell company.
Since Bell was a monopoly it Rented the telephone instrument to the customer, my parents (in another state in Bell territory) had the same physical 'candlestick' model phone from 1934 until 1960, it was only replaced by the model 500 WE when the dial plate had to be modified to add alpha prefixes (later abandoned when they went back to all numeric).
I have no quarrel with Bell (I only recently sold my remaining small holding of AT&T) but let's face it, if it had been up to Bell we still would not (IMOP) have worldwide roaming smart phones.

 

[t0xPro-197]

Well i dont know why they did away with the phones of old.Covrage was aproblem in some areas.In My option they should have just stayed on conv.Another member here said that Mot is like a baby montor.Were as Conv i Believe had alot father reach.Dont get me Wrong trunk systems have the advantages .But have many more disadvantages . I maybe wrong but sure seems like espcally interlooping they have real trouble with talking with other countys/States.One of the big ones has too be cost.Just like paying 3grand for a radio per users that may get you 5 years if your lucky.Your better off stay analoge in my option.