Workaround for CTCSS Search and P25 decoding?

[seligman]

I scan the Federal bands pretty often with Custom Searches and it's really frustrating being unable to decode Digital P25 when "CTCSS/DCS Search" is enabled. Quite often I forget how this is set, and by the time I realize what's happening, it's too late. I miss the PL tones or miss the P25 traffic.

Does anyone have a workaround for this problem? I have a 396T.

One idea I had... what if I programmed every frequency beginning at 162.000, going up in 12.5 kHz steps, with the Tone Search enabled? Can I receive P25 traffic and have PL tones displayed for analog transmissions? If yes, I wonder how much memory this would take, and how the scan speed would be affected?

Thanks...

 

[ka3jjz]

Well, firstly, you can't use a CTCSS search and P25 together, because they aren't. NACs are used on P25 frequencies, not PLs. Is that perhaps part of the issue here? 73 Mike

 

[Gezelle007]

Well, firstly, you can't use a CTCSS search and P25 together, because they aren't. NACs are used on P25 frequencies, not PLs. Is that perhaps part of the issue here? 73 Mike

I think hes asking about if there is a way to run both NAC decode AND CTCSS decode. Because on the newer scanners you can only have one or the other on.

 

[ecps92]

Only the GRE 500/600 does both P25/Analog searching

I scan the Federal bands pretty often with Custom Searches and it's really frustrating being unable to decode Digital P25 when "CTCSS/DCS Search" is enabled. Quite often I forget how this is set, and by the time I realize what's happening, it's too late. I miss the PL tones or miss the P25 traffic.

Does anyone have a workaround for this problem? I have a 396T.

One idea I had... what if I programmed every frequency beginning at 162.000, going up in 12.5 kHz steps, with the Tone Search enabled? Can I receive P25 traffic and have PL tones displayed for analog transmissions? If yes, I wonder how much memory this would take, and how the scan speed would be affected?

Thanks...

 

[seligman]

I think hes asking about if there is a way to run both NAC decode AND CTCSS decode. Because on the newer scanners you can only have one or the other on.

Correct.

What I want to know is whether this problem applies to stored memories or just the custom searches and close call?

 

[seligman]

Perhaps a simpler question would be this.

When a conventional frequency is stored with Tone Search enabled, will it also decode P25 if digital is being used?

 

[c5corvette]

Perhaps a simpler question would be this.

When a conventional frequency is stored with Tone Search enabled, will it also decode P25 if digital is being used?

Not in my Uniden.

 

[seligman]

Can someone explain why the GRE 500/600 are the only capable scanners? Uniden not interested, or too hard to implement, etc, etc?

 

[Ablice]

I think it's just part of life.

Pick a scanner that does the most of what you want, or multiple for similar reasons.

Or they could be throttling it back to upsell. EG. 396T -- should have multi-sites, but they won't let it. NAC codes -- I could understand them doing without them on that model (since I have yet to see an agency use the same freq but different NAC codes yet -- even with CTCSS/DCS it's a bit rare inside the same county/state).