XG-100P SCAN

[Com-Tech51H8]

I have a mystery on my hands, in one mission plan i successfully able to enter scan list and add and remove tgs and in another it sends the radio into reboot nothing has changed i double checked all the random spots with no luck? has anyone come across this or know a fix out side of building a new MP/CP.

 

[TDR-94]

It doesn't like something in your MP and that could be anything.

Those are the perks of owning such a buggy platform.

 

[BMDaug]

I have a mystery on my hands, in one mission plan i successfully able to enter scan list and add and remove tgs and in another it sends the radio into reboot nothing has changed i double checked all the random spots with no luck? has anyone come across this or know a fix out side of building a new MP/CP.

Are you using a custom scan list anywhere? Have you added any systems to the system scan list by right clicking on a system from the systems list and adding it? How many TGs are in that list? What firmware are you using?

@TDR-94 Do you use any 200Ps? Do you think that platform is more stable than the 100P?

-B

 

[TDR-94]

Are you using a custom scan list anywhere? Have you added any systems to the system scan list by right clicking on a system from the systems list and adding it? How many TGs are in that list? What firmware are you using?

@TDR-94 Do you use any 200Ps? Do you think that platform is more stable than the 100P?

-B

I don't personally own any, but know reputable people that do and they don't experience issues like the XG-100P does. The XL-200P's are a completely different design internally. They use an architecture based around the SHARC processor and not FPGA's like the XG-100P, which is what the military radios also utilize.

 

[Com-Tech51H8]

Are you using a custom scan list anywhere? Have you added any systems to the system scan list by right clicking on a system from the systems list and adding it? How many TGs are in that list? What firmware are you using?

@TDR-94 Do you use any 200Ps? Do you think that platform is more stable than the 100P?

-B

So I think i found my Gremlin so to speak.

went to an earlier code plug that i knew worked so what it boiled downed too was one of two issue

different feature set in personally owned vs agency owned radio

secondly once identified that issue i think it was 2 conventional systems inputted that couldnt be supported by feature set.

 

[TDR-94]

Yep, that will do it.

 

[Com-Tech51H8]

 

[TDR-94]

What version of RPM are you using with that old firmware?

 

[BMDaug]

What version of RPM are you using with that old firmware?

Ya, I was just setting up some custom scan lists and noticed the ‘limit custom scan for backward compatibility’ and ‘disable custom scan for backward compatibility’. I didn’t realize that firmwares R04 (I think that’s what it said) and earlier didn’t support custom scan…

Could be it…

-B

 

[TDR-94]

He has Unity R04 firmware in that radio, which pre-dates any XGP firmware, but still supports custom scan. That is really old firmware though and probably buggy as hell!

 

[BMDaug]

He has Unity R04 firmware in that radio, which pre-dates any XGP firmware, but still supports custom scan. That is really old firmware though and probably buggy as hell!

Totally!!

From the manual under “disable custom scan for backward compatibility”: “Unity software releases prior to R4A cannot load personalities that have custom scan lists. Custom scan should be disabled when creating a personality that will be loaded into a Unity radio running any software prior to R4A. In addition, this parameter controls whether a radio user is allowed to program custom scan lists from a radio front panel since, if this box is checked, custom scan is disabled even on radios with R4A or later software.”

And from the manual under “limited custom scan for backward compatibility”: “This box must be checked if you want to put an R12 or later personality into a radio with a software release between Unity R4 and XGP R4. Checking this box removes all the trunked groups from the custom scan list and limits the number of channel entries to 50.” NOTE: FOR SOFTWARE RELEASES XGP R5 AND LATER, THIS FIELD MUST BE CHECKED

Checking one or both of these boxes under custom scan lists will likely resolve OP’s problem.

-B

 

[TDR-94]

That Unity R04 firmware in that radio will still result in buggy behavior. There were many many firmware updates for the XG-100P to try and fix bug issues. The older the firmware the more bugs.

That firmware is about as old as you can get and the radio still be compatible with RPM.

 

[Com-Tech51H8]

can anyone point me in the direction of newer f/w as i dont have access to a tac account?

 

[TDR-94]

can anyone point me in the direction of newer f/w as i dont have access to a tac account?

Jumping directly from that old of firmware, to the XLP firmware, could be problematic and could result in loss of features or other potential issues.

 

[Com-Tech51H8]

Jumping directly from that old of firmware, to the XLP firmware, could be problematic and could result in loss of features or other potential issues.

ok i guess its stuck where it is... darn was hoping to correct a few of these gremlins.

 

[BMDaug]

ok i guess its stuck where it is... darn was hoping to correct a few of these gremlins.

You can step it forward, but I don’t know how many steps it should take and I don’t know how you would find the corresponding firmware to accomplish it. I think you would at least need to jump to an early XGP, then a late XGP, then an early XLP, then the latest XLP. That may also require a couple versions of RPM. Whatever you decide to do, make sure and record the feature string using Radio Maintenance. Send it to yourself in an email, and store it in a few places. Better safe than sorry!

-B

 

[Com-Tech51H8]

You can step it forward, but I don’t know how many steps it should take and I don’t know how you would find the corresponding firmware to accomplish it. I think you would at least need to jump to an early XGP, then a late XGP, then an early XLP, then the latest XLP. That may also require a couple versions of RPM. Whatever you decide to do, make sure and record the feature string using Radio Maintenance. Send it to yourself in an email, and store it in a few places. Better safe than sorry!

-B

my personal radio is currently running XGPRO5A18, YEAH I SAVED THEM ON A CLOUD AND ON MY HD

 

[TDR-94]

You can step it forward, but I don’t know how many steps it should take and I don’t know how you would find the corresponding firmware to accomplish it. I think you would at least need to jump to an early XGP, then a late XGP, then an early XLP, then the latest XLP. That may also require a couple versions of RPM. Whatever you decide to do, make sure and record the feature string using Radio Maintenance. Send it to yourself in an email, and store it in a few places. Better safe than sorry!

-B

From what I was told, if I remember correctly, entering the feature string back in the radio would not restore the lost features, that could result from jumping from that older firmware.

 

[BMDaug]

From what I was told, if I remember correctly, entering the feature string back in the radio would not restore the lost features, that could result from jumping from that older firmware.

So it is an XG firmware. It’s not as old as I thought but I still have no experience with XG firmware. That’s interesting though… I mean, at some point, every radio would have been eligible for incremental updates right? I’m not doubting you, I’m just asking to learn.

-B

 

[Com-Tech51H8]

So it is an XG firmware. It’s not as old as I thought but I still have no experience with XG firmware. That’s interesting though… I mean, at some point, every radio would have been eligible for incremental updates right? I’m not doubting you, I’m just asking to learn.

-B

i have an agency assigned that has the oldest of old firmware in it. and my personal radio that i own has the older but newer xgp firmware. i suppose that it should have but im learning as well i have a strong moto background but in the short year and half/ 2yrs i have bearly scratched the surface on harris but ive also learned an metric ton of information as well in regards. always learning something new. but by far the most easiest imo to program.