Xpr 6580

[downwinddog]

we use xpr 6580 radios at work and they seem to be a good radio untill you get out of rage of the plant. Often times we are sent to other areas where our radios dont work. When you key up the mic you hear a tone. My question is cant you switch them into analog mode so we can talk to each other when we are off site.

 

[MTS2000des]

we use xpr 6580 radios at work and they seem to be a good radio untill you get out of rage of the plant. Often times we are sent to other areas where our radios dont work. When you key up the mic you hear a tone. My question is cant you switch them into analog mode so we can talk to each other when we are off site.

The "tone" is a talk permit tone.
The XPR6580 is capable of being programmed for simplex (off network) communication, your radio systems manager or a radio shop can do this for you.

And yes, they are capable of simplex on both digital and analog modes.

 

[robertmac]

And this is on Amateur Radio frequencies?

 

[downwinddog]

Thank you for your reply. Would you know what program they would use to do that and what kind of range you would get on simplex. We typically get maybe 15-20 miles when on the system in bush. We are usually a few miles apart when working together off site. I would like to know so when I bring it up to the systems manager I can express how usefull it would be to program a simplex channel in it.

 

[LtDoc]

No, it's not amateur radio related.
- 'Doc

 

[rapidcharger]

Thank you for your reply. Would you know what program they would use to do that and what kind of range you would get on simplex. We typically get maybe 15-20 miles when on the system in bush. We are usually a few miles apart when working together off site. I would like to know so when I bring it up to the systems manager I can express how usefull it would be to program a simplex channel in it.

The program you would use is the Customer Programming Software. It's not readily available to end users, as in, you can't buy it from a dealer however Motorola makes it available to those wanting to buy an expensive $300USD+ license fee.

I don't know where you are but in the US, the 6580 is an 800/900 mhz radio only. Those bands do not get very good simplex range. For portable to portable, if you can "see" the other station off on the horizon with very few obstructions, you can expect reliable contact. The range will be better in digital mode. If you can't, "a few miles" isn't realistic at all. Not even a little bit. You'd be lucky to get a half a mile. 800/900 sucks. It's highly infrastructure dependent.

Your use of the word "bush" threw me for a whirl. I'm guessing you are in another continent. You may be using a different band for all I know. Check with your dealer.

 

[MTS2000des]

uhm, CPS is available to anyone willing to pay for it, and sign the license agreement, and the current price is $265 not 300, and there is no "license fee" as you say.

You also get unlimited technical support and email for 2 years from date of purchase. Hardly a bad deal. Usually this means several releases. You also get free firmware updates for your TRBO radios, other manufacturers charge for this, or don't even make it available. This allows a self-maintained customer to have all the latest fixes and enhancements added to their products without ever having to step foot in a shop.

The programming cable is around $85, forgot to mention that.

 

[rapidcharger]

uhm, CPS is available to anyone willing to pay for it, and sign the license agreement, and the current price is $265 not 300, and there is no "license fee" as you say.

You also get unlimited technical support and email for 2 years from date of purchase. Hardly a bad deal. Usually this means several releases. You also get free firmware updates for your TRBO radios, other manufacturers charge for this, or don't even make it available. This allows a self-maintained customer to have all the latest fixes and enhancements added to their products without ever having to step foot in a shop.

The programming cable is around $85, forgot to mention that.

What a bargain.
Well you can tell I've never bought any since it's outrageously priced compared to the competition who's dealers don't seem to have a problem just giving the software away.

 

[downwinddog]

Thank You again for your replies. Sorry about my typo, I can see how that confused you. We typically get maybe 15-20 miles when on the system and thats deep in the trees (bush). I guess my next question is is there a portable repeater/system that could be installed a vehicle and used when we get out of range?

 

[rapidcharger]

Thank You again for your replies. Sorry about my typo, I can see how that confused you. We typically get maybe 15-20 miles when on the system and thats deep in the trees (bush). I guess my next question is is there a portable repeater/system that could be installed a vehicle and used when we get out of range?

I don't think there is one for digital but there are for analog. But even with a vehicular repeater your range isn't going to be so great. You may find it easier and more cost effective to get some separate VHF radios for use in the field.

 

[WA0CBW]

And if you are under the jurisdiction of the FCC then the appropriate simplex/vehicular repeater licensing is required.
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