Looking for the proper cable part number for consolette programming using the flashport connector? Also from the model number does this have the Digital remote option board,not the tone remote board.L20KSS9PW1AN
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XTL5000 consolette programming cable
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y85csm
Electron Wrangler
The Hirose connector is for loading encryption keys with a KVL.
You have to open the housing.
To program the radio, you use the HKN6155 programming cable which plugs into the "microphone" style connector on the brick.
You have to open the housing.
To program the radio, you use the HKN6155 programming cable which plugs into the "microphone" style connector on the brick.
Thanks! Now how do I tell if it has the Digital remote option installed, I want to run 2 digital remotes. Would the model number tell me.
Forgot this is what I want to run Motorola RCH3000
Project25_MASTR
Millennial Graying OBT Guy
You can also use the accessory connector programming cable which can be built out of a scrap USB cable and a spare audio cable. Sure beats the $125 serial cable that was only compatible with W series equipped XTL5000s and ASPs.
jcop225
Radio Zoomer
Can tell by looking at the back of the consolette, if there is a RJ-45 port next to the antenna connector then it has the TRC board installed.
I was told I need the Digital tone remote board to run the RCH3000 remotes in the consolette, and not the Tone remote board, is there a difference?
This is what I want to run 2 of these,
and I do have the Digital Junction Box
This is what I want to run 2 of these,
and I do have the Digital Junction Box
Firmware has to be a certain version i think above 7 or 8 to allow use of USB programming cables.
Project25_MASTR
Millennial Graying OBT Guy
The RCH3000 is a digital remote. Meaning all functions are sent via as serial commands via the SB9600 (RS232) protocol. This function is how you change channels, see programmed channel aliases, see ID's, send call alerts...basically every interface to the consolette minus TX and RX audio. Essentially, nothing but a remote control head in a desktop remote factor. I remember the predecessor to this particular remote being setup as a W9 control head in the radio's codeplug but that was also interfaced to an Astro Spectra consolette and not an XTL consolette.
When it comes to tone remote function...different protocol. Uses a 50 ms burst of 2175 Hz called a High Level Guard Tone followed by 150 ms of what is called a function tone. This function tone can represent channel numbers, PTT, monitor, scan, etc. This is all followed by a continuous 2175 Hz burst 20-30 dB below the HLGT called the Low Level Guard Tone. The LLGT is present as long as the function is being active. PTT is commonly 1950 Hz...so there would be a 50 ms burst at 2175 Hz, 150 ms burst at 1950 Hz and then another 2175 Hz burst 20 dB below until PTT is released. The consolette or TRA would simply notch out 2175 and pass the other audio on as audio to be transmitted.
When it comes to tone remote function...different protocol. Uses a 50 ms burst of 2175 Hz called a High Level Guard Tone followed by 150 ms of what is called a function tone. This function tone can represent channel numbers, PTT, monitor, scan, etc. This is all followed by a continuous 2175 Hz burst 20-30 dB below the HLGT called the Low Level Guard Tone. The LLGT is present as long as the function is being active. PTT is commonly 1950 Hz...so there would be a 50 ms burst at 2175 Hz, 150 ms burst at 1950 Hz and then another 2175 Hz burst 20 dB below until PTT is released. The consolette or TRA would simply notch out 2175 and pass the other audio on as audio to be transmitted.
You need an L3208 digital box that connects to the. Consolette via a DB25 cable. Then the RCH3000 connects to the L3208 via the RJ45 connectors. the connection is not standard CAT5 wiring. It uses what Motorola calls a "mirror cable." If you need to connect more than one RCH3000, you can use CDN1337 boxes instead of the L3208. The 1337 has 6 or 8 ports and can be piggybacked to allow more RCH3000 remotes. The L3208 is mainly for using MC3000 remotes, but has one port for an RCH3000.
The radio needs to be configured as a W9 control head. These remote are usually connected to consolettes without local control heads.
The radio needs to be configured as a W9 control head. These remote are usually connected to consolettes without local control heads.
Most Astro consolettes have the digital boards. It is rare to find one with a tone board. You can put an XTL configured as a W9 and it will work just fine with either an RCH3000 or an MC3000. You just have to use the correct digital junction box.
jcop225
Radio Zoomer
I was reading the manual and trying to figure out if it *has* to be the Digital Remote Control (W9) configuration to work with the RCH3000.
"Note: The ASTRO Spectra/Spectra Plus Consolette (W9 model) incorporates the Digital Remote Control feature. This model is compatible with DGT9000 models L1751 and L1752, RCH3000 models L3030 and CDN1337, and MC3000 model L3223. "
But it interfaces through Accessory Connector 2, which both configurations have.
Is the AIB different between the Digital Remote Control configuration and the Local Control configuration?
I have never come across an Astro consolette that did not have the digital board that would interface to a digital junction box ( through Acc 2). I'm sure it will work if configured as a W7, but the programmed buttons will not line up properly on the digital remotes.
I used RCH3000 for years and then changed over to MC3000s. I have used them on Astro and XTL radios inside of Astro consolettes without issue. I'm also using MC2500 tone remotes to control 4 base stations, so I wanted to keep the remotes in the same package, hence why I moved from the RCH to the MC series.
Everyone I thank you for the input, some new information I did not know. The picture in my first post is the unit I was planning to purchase. Seems like this will work and is returnable if not in 30 days. Again Thanks.
Project25_MASTR
Millennial Graying OBT Guy
Only if it has a control head. To date, I've not seen a consolette with a control head used with a MCC5500, MCC7100 or MCC7500 console. Not popular with the setups I work on.
I did remove the cover and used the plug that looks like the mic jack, radio programmed up just fine with the proper cable.Now to find a wiring diagram for the digital junction box to the consulette.cable DDN6333.
From digital junction box to acc port 2 is just a straight through 25-pin cable.
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