Bluetooth for G4/G5?

RRR · Apr 23, 2017

I paired up a Plantronics earbud Bluetooth to a G4, and all was good, except everytime the G4 stops on a talkgroup, the Bluetooth announces "Incoming call" into my ear, over the audio of the G4. Not cool hearing that the first couple of seconds of each transmission.

Does anyone know of a good, compatible BT (earbud/in/around the ear type) that won't announce "incoming call" or anything when audio is received, that is good for use with a G4/G5 receiver?

Thanks in advance

cpetraglia · Apr 24, 2017

That's a total crap shoot. I went thru many many BT devices and never really found one that was satisfactory. The BT protocol version in the pager is BT 2.1 which is close to 10 years outdated. There has been much discussion about this in previous threads here. I feel your pain. Best of luck. Your BT ear buds assume your connected to a cell phone which would work fine as you have to hit 'answer' before audio starts. The pager is disconnecting every time a TG closes, thereby reconnecting each time a TG is received. It has been suggested to Unication to have the BT stay connected at all times, but there may be a power draw issue that shortens battery life. Maybe we'll see something in a future FW update. I wouldn't hold your breath. !!

RRR · Apr 24, 2017

Thanks for that. I'd rather them put a jack on the thing and plug in a mini phono plug or something for a wired earplug. As it is now, the BT is basically useless.

David_Oney · Apr 24, 2017

The unit should work with Bluetooth 3.0 which is what the Headsets that we have are utilizing. As far as the Bluetooth handshake is concerned I have a request into engineering to look over and possibly change the way the unit handles this. Hopefully, we can see a change for the better in a future release.

phirephoto · Apr 25, 2017

Unication_David said:
The unit should work with Bluetooth 3.0 which is what the Headsets that we have are utilizing. As far as the Bluetooth handshake is concerned I have a request into engineering to look over and possibly change the way the unit handles this. Hopefully, we can see a change for the better in a future release.

Any chance of the hardware supporting BT 4.0 (ie via a firmware update)? It's even hard to find BT 3.0 headsets now. I'm looking for a solo 3.0 headset (ie just one for one ear) and not finding much...

ecarvalho · Apr 25, 2017

Quick Google search turned out several of those old 2.1 headsets still on sale...

cpetraglia · Apr 26, 2017

I have a few BT 3.0 receivers. Some pair but wont connect. Some others connect but have all the unnecessary noises at the beginning of a transmission. I have been thru at least 15 BT devices and found the most consistency with the 2.1 models.

ecarvalho · Apr 26, 2017

I tested a chinese 3.0 bt headset but like most folks, there is connection beep and then the g5 audio then another beep. This makes short transmissions impossible to hear and all the blepbloops are annoying. Of course this headset was designed for use with a phone so...
Ill see if a 2.1 bt headphone or earbud is laying around for testing

troymail · Apr 26, 2017

Unication_David said:
The unit should work with Bluetooth 3.0 which is what the Headsets that we have are utilizing. As far as the Bluetooth handshake is concerned I have a request into engineering to look over and possibly change the way the unit handles this. Hopefully, we can see a change for the better in a future release.

David - Which specific brand/model headsets are Unication folks using and do they have any extra noises before/after voice messages from the pagers?

ecarvalho · Apr 26, 2017

The Plantronics M50 (BT v3.0) is working "fairly decent" with my G5. It does miss a millisecond of the transmission with a beep-bloop-bloop-pop sound but the sound itself is not that annoying even with quick transmission exchanges.

I found it for sale in several sites and the lowest price so far is this:
Plantronics M50 Bluetooth Headset | Tech Rabbit

I still don't think is perfect and I won't be using it much. I have almost no real need for a headphone when it comes to this but I want to try an old v2.1 BT when I get a chance.

David_Oney · Apr 27, 2017

The way the Bluetooth currently works is similar to receiving a phone call because of the to and from info transmitted so if the Bluetooth headset beeps when receiving it is because it sees the traffic as a phone call

cpetraglia · Apr 27, 2017

I think we understand that. The problem is, this is not a cell phone. The BT needs to stay connected at all times so the noises are only heard when first connecting.

ecarvalho · Apr 27, 2017

I would also like to see uninterrupted BT audio feed but I fear that will reduce the battery life as well.

phirephoto · Apr 27, 2017

cpetraglia said:
I think we understand that. The problem is, this is not a cell phone. The BT needs to stay connected at all times so the noises are only heard when first connecting.

Wouldn't that drain the battery REAL quick?

TomTN · Apr 27, 2017

phirephoto said:
Wouldn't that drain the battery REAL quick?

It doesn't on the Motorola XPR7550e. Radio and earpiece last all day with no beeps. Unication should be able to accomplish the same thing.

phirephoto · Apr 27, 2017

Is there a wired to bluetooth adapter? I had the opposite a LONG time ago - a little box you plugged into like a wired scanner, then connect your bluetooth headset to the 'box' and you could use your bluetooth headset with a wired scanner. I want to do the opposite - use a wired headset with a bluetooth device, like the Unication. Would obviously have to be BT 3.0... Does such a beast exist?

gcopter1 · Apr 27, 2017

Phirephoto, I had the opposite, BT to wired adapter. It was the BlackBerry Gateway. It has a mini USB port to supply power to the BB Gateway and an audio jack. Pair the device to the Gateway via BT and listen thru the wired jack. Being that old, you would think the Gateway had the right protocol for the Unication. My G4 would see it but it wouldn't pair.Not sure how or why you would want wired to BT? You want to listen to the pager via BT, but, where does the wired part come into play if the Unication has no audio jack? I can play audio on the charging base, but, I think the base uses the terminals at the bottom of the pager for that?

phirephoto · Apr 27, 2017

gcopter1 said:
Phirephoto, I had the opposite, BT to wired adapter. It was the BlackBerry Gateway. It has a mini USB port to supply power to the BB Gateway and an audio jack. Pair the device to the Gateway via BT and listen thru the wired jack. Being that old, you would think the Gateway had the right protocol for the Unication. My G4 would see it but it wouldn't pair.Not sure how or why you would want wired to BT? You want to listen to the pager via BT, but, where does the wired part come into play if the Unication has no audio jack? I can play audio on the charging base, but, I think the base uses the terminals at the bottom of the pager for that?

I have a number of good wired earpieces - one being a secret service style custom earpiece, so the advantage would be using a custom wired earpiece, but of course I'd need to have it pair to the Unication since it's wired

gcopter1 · Apr 27, 2017

Got it. Sounds,cumbersome,but if it works...hope you find something!

phirephoto · Apr 27, 2017

gcopter1 said:
Got it. Sounds,cumbersome,but if it works...hope you find something!

It's actually not bad!

Here's their page - Audio Implements-Custom Molds I've had it for so long I couldn't tell you what I paid. Looking through my notes, I think I got it in the mid 90's and it's still going strong! I know I've replaced the tubing a few times, but it's well worth the investment.

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