Tytera TYT/Tytera MD380 DMR HT

[jeffm77]

Thanks for everyone's help. It sucks that I can not label each individual contact seperate, that uses TG 1. Now, everyone around me that uses TG 1 , on the display it just says, TG# 1. Also, is there a way to do a "group scan"? Like, instead of scanning one zone at a time. In my area, I have a DMR capacity plus system, so what I did was programmed in each location on a separate zone. Like I called one, "site 8". There are like about 10 sites, all using the same color code, but each site has it's own set of frequencies. The radio only allows 16 channels per zone. What I would like to do is see if there is a way to scan each one of those "zones" at the same time, or can the radio only scan one zone at a time? I know on my Vertex radio software, I can choose a box called, "group scan" and the radio will scan everything I have selected to scan under a group scan. Can the Tytera do the same thing? Thanks all.

 

[N4KVE]

Thanks for everyone's help. It sucks that I can not label each individual contact seperate, that uses TG 1. Now, everyone around me that uses TG 1 , on the display it just says, TG# 1.

Depends where you live. Where I live, all the repeaters that use TG1, use it for WW, TG2, is local, TG3 is NA, etc, so there is no conflict with the same TG# meaning different things on different repeaters. Those who set up repeaters that are not linked to DMR MARC choose other TG #'s so the problem you run into does not occur. Repeater owners here talk to each other, so this conflict does not occur.

 

[johnls7424]

A stupid question, is it possible to scan frequencies or channels alone?

Has anyone answered this mans question yet? Cause I own the Tytera MD-380, but never used or attempted to use a scan feature

 

[NavyBOFH]

Has anyone answered this mans question yet? Cause I own the Tytera MD-380, but never used or attempted to use a scan feature

If speaking of the monitor/scan as in what the CS750 does - not a chance. Once you have a scan list set, it will scan it if you go through the menu or link that scan list to a zone and then assign a button for scan. I have no issues with that part.


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[N8OHU]

Depends where you live. Where I live, all the repeaters that use TG1, use it for WW, TG2, is local, TG3 is NA, etc, so there is no conflict with the same TG# meaning different things on different repeaters. Those who set up repeaters that are not linked to DMR MARC choose other TG #'s so the problem you run into does not occur. Repeater owners here talk to each other, so this conflict does not occur.

The Hytera DMRPlus system uses the same layout on timeslot 1, but has an entirely different setup on timeslot 2.

 

[RayAir]

Thanks for everyone's help. It sucks that I can not label each individual contact seperate, that uses TG 1. Now, everyone around me that uses TG 1 , on the display it just says, TG# 1. Also, is there a way to do a "group scan"? Like, instead of scanning one zone at a time. In my area, I have a DMR capacity plus system, so what I did was programmed in each location on a separate zone. Like I called one, "site 8". There are like about 10 sites, all using the same color code, but each site has it's own set of frequencies. The radio only allows 16 channels per zone. What I would like to do is see if there is a way to scan each one of those "zones" at the same time, or can the radio only scan one zone at a time? I know on my Vertex radio software, I can choose a box called, "group scan" and the radio will scan everything I have selected to scan under a group scan. Can the Tytera do the same thing? Thanks all.

The Tytera can only scan one zone at a time.
16ch/zone max
32 talk groups max (dig rx list)

You have to assign the frequencies in the zone to a scan list and then go to each frequency and assign the scan list you created to each frequency.

Assign a button to turn scan on/off. I always use the top side button.

If you ever scan a Capacity Plus or Connect Plus, enable the auto scan feature.

 

[jeffm77]

Ray, question. What does enabling the auto-scan feature do? I have it turned off. So, scanning a capacity plus system, I should enable it? Thanks.

 

[RayAir]

Ray, question. What does enabling the auto-scan feature do? I have it turned off. So, scanning a capacity plus system, I should enable it? Thanks.

If you set auto scan (must be checked for each frequency in the channel information) the radio will automatically scan all assigned frequencies when you go to the zone you set it for.

You want to use it for any type of trunking system because your tier 2 radio cannot follow the trunking. Auto scan won't allow you to follow the trunking perfectly either, but it works decently.

 

[Voyager]

Problem with AUTO-scan is that you no longer have the option of monitoring a single channel. Using manual scan, you can either scan the same as auto-scan would, OR you can sit on that channel and monitor. On the CS-750 that is also the only way currently to monitor the channel and see any activity.

 

[DanRollman]

Problem with AUTO-scan is that you no longer have the option of monitoring a single channel. Using manual scan, you can either scan the same as auto-scan would, OR you can sit on that channel and monitor. On the CS-750 that is also the only way currently to monitor the channel and see any activity.

Not the case on the CS750. On the CS750, auto scan activates the scan feature when you select a channel auto scan has been programmed on, but you're free to immediately turn scan off to sit on the corresponding channel. And you can do this with any particular programmed channel in the scan list.

Does the MD380 not let you manually turn scan off for a channel programmed with auto scan, or not let you manually select other channels that are part of an auto scan list?

On my CS750, I use auto scan for channels that are part of a trunked system because I "usually" want to be scanning those channels (saves a button press), but I'm still free to press the scan button to deactivate the auto scan.

 

[RayAir]

Not the case on the CS750. On the CS750, auto scan activates the scan feature when you select a channel auto scan has been programmed on, but you're free to immediately turn scan off to sit on the corresponding channel. And you can do this with any particular programmed channel in the scan list.

Does the MD380 not let you manually turn scan off for a channel programmed with auto scan, or not let you manually select other channels that are part of an auto scan list?

On my CS750, I use auto scan for channels that are part of a trunked system because I "usually" want to be scanning those channels (saves a button press), but I'm still free to press the scan button to deactivate the auto scan.

The 380 will turn the auto scan off if you enable a button to toggle scan on/off. However, if you change the channel selector it will enable auto scan again if you have it set.

 

[RayAir]

Problem with AUTO-scan is that you no longer have the option of monitoring a single channel. Using manual scan, you can either scan the same as auto-scan would, OR you can sit on that channel and monitor. On the CS-750 that is also the only way currently to monitor the channel and see any activity.

Auto scan is the only viable option if you're trying to scan something like a 15 repeater Con+ site and even then you can only partially scan the system (16 talk paths out of 29).

I'm monitoring a Con+ site with 10 repeaters by using two radios just to cover all talk paths. Actually I have 5 different radios with zones and TGs for that site and DSD+.

An issue with scanning that site is that it really gets clogged up during business hours with lesser priority TGs (cement trucks, construction, Trucking industry users,etc).
Better to listen at night when it is all EMS and roadside emergency TGs.

 

[DanRollman]

The 380 will turn the auto scan off if you enable a button to toggle scan on/off. However, if you change the channel selector it will enable auto scan again if you have it set.

Ok. Same way CS750 works. So you do have the option to monitor a single channel even if auto scan is selected - you just turn scan back off (and do it again when you change channels).

 

[Ghstwolf62]

They don't, I hope to see it as a future addition though.


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[lynzoid]

MD380 DOES in fact scan across zones. Yes it does. 2 zones, 6 channels in each, all 12ch in a scanlist, each ch have that scanlist assigned. When i activate scan it scans all 12ch, evens stops/dwells at a particular ch with zone, ch name and contact displayed.

 

[Voyager]

Auto scan is the only viable option if you're trying to scan something like a 15 repeater Con+ site and even then you can only partially scan the system (16 talk paths out of 29).

I monitor a similar system, and I cannot see how the AUTO-SCAN is the only option. If I want to scan multiple channels, I enable the scan. There is nothing I know of that Auto-Scan will do that normal scan will not. If there is, please tell us what that is.

I DO wish the scan would 'stick' when changing channels. If I have scan enabled, it should stay enabled. Same with the monitor feature. But, Auto-Scan has that issue as well. If I don't want to scan, it enables it when you change channels based on what was said above.

I was not aware that the Auto-Scan could be turned off. I know one of the models it can't. Maybe it was a Motorola.

 

[Voyager]

MD380 DOES in fact scan across zones. Yes it does. 2 zones, 6 channels in each, all 12ch in a scanlist, each ch have that scanlist assigned. When i activate scan it scans all 12ch, evens stops/dwells at a particular ch with zone, ch name and contact displayed.

So will the 750. It will scan any channels in the scanlist assigned to the channel the scan was started from. That could include 1 channel from 16 zones.

 

[RayAir]

I monitor a similar system, and I cannot see how the AUTO-SCAN is the only option. If I want to scan multiple channels, I enable the scan. There is nothing I know of that Auto-Scan will do that normal scan will not. If there is, please tell us what that is.

I DO wish the scan would 'stick' when changing channels. If I have scan enabled, it should stay enabled. Same with the monitor feature. But, Auto-Scan has that issue as well. If I don't want to scan, it enables it when you change channels based on what was said above.

I was not aware that the Auto-Scan could be turned off. I know one of the models it can't. Maybe it was a Motorola.

Right. I should have worded it a little different. Auto scan is the way I scan my Con+ sites. Regular on/off scan function is fine to.

I found a new Con+ with rotating CCs that is a bit of a pain. And I also notice sometimes TS 2 of the CC is active consistently. I'm guessing it is used for data because the voice traffic is lower on this system.

 

[Voyager]

I've seen some systems change slots for the CC, too. Often it is due to failure of LCN1's repeater, but I've also seen Slot 7 used as the CC when the other slots were alive and well. Haven't seen one rotate yet, but I can imagine the chaos it causes - having to program all the slots and change the scan list when the CC changes.

(CC = Control Channel, not Color Code in the above text)

I often want to confirm the LCNs/Slots, so I would not want the radio to go into scan mode when I change channels to verify the LCN/Slot. But, to each his own.

 

[RayAir]

I'll just write two zones for my 380, each zone minus one of the control channel frequencies they switch between.

I've started reading through Motorola Connect Plus System Planner and it says the control channel can change under certain conditions (ex- interference).
It also said TS1 is always used for control data.

Maybe that can be changed by the system technician though?