2 way Guru?

[mrmeola]

The company I work for is the fuel contractor for several commercial airlines...with that said, rather than carry 4 radios from different airlines I would like to use my vx 5r. I have the frequencies that I need and have added them to the database here. I can recieve but cannot talk back (radio is modified to talk on all freq).

Southwest for instance

uplink 456.48750
Recieve 451.48750

when I set up my radio for repeter opperation with the 5mhz offset, SWA cannot hear me transmit. What am I missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated...if you know the answer or how to figure it out I would like to know that also I will have to do this for several other airlines.


Thanks in advance,


Eric

 

[robynsjw]

Make suer you're using the + (plus) offset, you might be using the - (minus), where you'll end up talking on 446.4875.

 

[WX5JCH]

They may have PL/DPL enabled on their repeater...

 

[N_Jay]

. . . . What am I missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated...if you know the answer or how to figure it out I would like to know that also I will have to do this for several other airlines.

You missing the fact that your radio is not legal on those frequencies, even if modified to go there.

(Maybe you did not know?)
(Maybe you did know and do not care?)

Why don't you have your company get you one commercial radio programmed for all the frequencies you need?

 

[mrmeola]

You missing the fact that your radio is not legal on those frequencies, even if modified to go there.

(Maybe you did not know?)
(Maybe you did know and do not care?)

This is just a temoprary fix...No matter how you slice it I still need this information to program or have a commercial radio programmed to operate on these frequencies...appreciate your concern.

Why don't you have your company get you one commercial radio programmed for all the frequencies you need?

The thought process is this. If I can prove to the UPPER management how usefull and how much easier it would be, the end result is them buying several radios and having them programed to work on all the frequencies nessissary. right now one of my guys has 3 radios, a cell phone, and a company cell phone. Can you imagine what this looks lke?

 

[mrmeola]

They may have PL/DPL enabled on their repeater...

How would I figure that out?

PL
DPL
DCS



Thanks

 

[N_Jay]

They may have PL/DPL enabled on their repeater...

How would I figure that out?

PL
DPL
DCS

Thanks

I would guess monitoring with a scanner that displays that information would work.

As for the "temporary" nature of your fix.

Are you planning on informing your management that what you are doing is against federal regulation?

Seems that showinmg them the cheap way out my defuse them doing the right thing.

 

[K5MAR]

My thought would be, if you are working for a fueling operation, you might be required to have explosion-proof radios. If your employer wants you to have a radio/radios to talk to the various airline operations, they should supply you with a properly spec'ed radio programmed with the authorized freqs.

In these days of heightened airport security, having an unauthorized transmit-enabled radio programmed with airline freqs could be detrimental to your continued employement.

Mark S.

 

[N_Jay]

In these days of heightened airport security, having an unauthorized transmit-enabled radio programmed with airline freqs could be detrimental to your continued employement.

Mark S.

Or to their continued contract, if it is authorized.

(That should get them off the stick!)

 

[jhooten]

Does the VX5 not do PL search? Just rember to search the input freq. Some repeaters are set up to strip the input PL/DPL and send out a different one.

 

[mrmeola]

My intent was not to get a flame war started...so therefor I will not be responding to comments about security, continued employment/contracts, or legal issues/federal regulation.


If you look under my username...you will see "new member" thought the idea of message boards were to find out information? You can explain things to people who don't know without ripping the new guys head off!


For those of you who responded with the info not criticism

THANK YOU!

for those of you who who chose the other...go kick your dog get a drink smoke a cigarette or whatever will make you lighten up...I appreciate the concern and the knowing the laws and regulations but think you could explain those things in a different way.


Thanks again for the information

 

[N_Jay]

Some of the comments were aimed at providing you some extra amunition to get management to step up and do the right thing.

 

[crayon]

when I set up my radio for repeter opperation with the 5mhz offset, SWA cannot hear me transmit.

Base upon the context here I am going to assume that SWA is aware of what he is trying to accomplish. *shrug* If SWA gives him the okay to TX on thier freqs, how does this make it an unauthorized radio?

My thought would be, if you are working for a fueling operation, you might be required to have explosion-proof radios.

The AAR guys are using Moto HT's for their ops. They may have restrictions whilst they are fueling .. dunno. In STL, when I worked for Odgen Aviation, we did not have HT's but had radios in the truck and I do not remember any TX restrictions while we were fueling.

mrmeola, IM me with an email or cell number if you want to talk.

 

[n5bew1]

The crux of the problem with a Yaesu vx5r on commercial freqs is that it is not type accepted by the FCC to be used in this fashion. I know it will transmit there and your operation will be governed by your conscience only.

Ken

 

[crayon]

The crux of the problem with a Yaesu vx5r on commercial freqs is that it is not type accepted by the FCC to be used in this fashion. I know it will transmit there and your operation will be governed by your conscience only.

o.

So the Yaesu vx5r is a ham rig? Gotcha.

 

[N_Jay]

So the Yaesu vx5r is a ham rig? Gotcha.

Your joking, Right?

 

[crayon]

Your joking, Right?

Actually, no. hehe

I did this google search:

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=Yaesu+vx5r

I did not click on any of the links, just read them and saw hamstation.coma and rigpix.com and [VHFcontesting] VX5R on 6 meters and assumed it was an amatuer radio ...

Now I'm gonna hafta click on all these links just to find out ...

 

[N_Jay]

Your joking, Right?

Actually, no. hehe

I did this google search:

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=Yaesu+vx5r

I did not click on any of the links, just read them and saw hamstation.coma and rigpix.com and [VHFcontesting] VX5R on 6 meters and assumed it was an amatuer radio ...

Now I'm gonna hafta click on all these links just to find out ...

OK, Thanks!!

P.S. This proves my point that some people do NOT know that the sugested modification is illegal.

 

[CommShrek]

You missing the fact that your radio is not legal on those frequencies, even if modified to go there.

He didn't ask whether it was legal or not. I'm sure we all know what's legal and what's not. Even if we didn't, you need to come out of the closet and take a look at what a lot of people in emergency management and law enforcement use.

There is a lot of opened up ham rigs in government use right now, and there always will be. It costs thousands vs. hundreds of dollars to get the "legal" radio equipment. The higher up's don't always want to pay for the equipment a person needs to do a job, so, the person improvises. I don't see a lot of harm in this practice.

Let the flames begin.

 

[nd5y]

There is a lot of opened up ham rigs in government use right now, and there always will be. It costs thousands vs. hundreds of dollars to get the "legal" radio equipment. The higher up's don't always want to pay for the equipment a person needs to do a job, so, the person improvises. I don't see a lot of harm in this practice.

Let the flames begin.

A long time ago I read where the 2-way radio industry was upset about
losing business and got a rule passed that the GSA will only allow the federal
government to buy Part 90 type accepted radios.
Anybody know if this is really true?

Tom