2020 Arizona Wildfires

[thomasbillman1]

I have an extra computer, thought about providing a feed for all the Natural Resource Fire agencies around Scottsdale including TNF

I have all those requencies on my scanner stream . during the summer thats all I stream state and federal wild land fire .

 

[milcom_chaser]

A little more clarification if it is needed. The National Interagency Fire Center needs frequencies for large incidents all over the country on a more frequent basis than any other federal entity. The National Incident Radio Support Cache (NIRSC) was first developed in the 1960's for large wildland fires and has been used for more than wildland fires. It has been used for hurricanes floods, at at least one political party convention and I think at 9-11 ground zero. This makes sense as NIFC organized national incident management teams routinely provide logistical management at large non-wildland fire disasters. Late Hubby told me they handled the logistics and planning sections for the Twin Towers incident. The NIRSC has grown far beyond the purpose the NIFC system was developed for. The NIRSC is the largest radio cache in the world.

NIFC found they needed more than 6-7 command repeater pairs and more than 6-7 tactical frequencies with nationwide authorization. So they incorporated NC-1 and IR 1-4 as Commands 8-12. Their frequency lists for the NIRSC were then labeled this way. The Department of Homeland Security administers the NIFOG. Some years back, maybe about 6-10 years ago is when the NIRSC included the NIFOG freqs, and DHS had to give them permission to do so. Looks like the new 2019 VHF frequency allocation was on the minds of the NIFOG designers at the time. Good thinking I would say!

Really appreciate you taking the time to clarify that!

 

[milcom_chaser]

I have all those requencies on my scanner stream . during the summer thats all I stream state and federal wild land fire .

Can you post a link to your feed, or PM it if you want. Thanks!

 

[milcom_chaser]

H

P.S. I'm getting no scanner time for the Bush Fire. I'm in Phoenix with Daddy in the hospital. The smoke was not too bad in Payson, but we had some. On Wednesday, Daddy started with a deep dry cough. By that evening he developed a 100 degree fever. We drove to Phoenix that night going by way of Strawberry to Camp Verde. Its just a precaution given his age, so I'm guardedly optimistic. If he has Covid-19 I don't know how he got it, this retired nurse was hyper vigilant.

Hope he’s doing better.

 

[radioprescott]

A4S-950 / TNF-1669 CENTRAL 2020

Started as a initial attack on state land managed by ADFFM, now managed by same T1 team as Bush

Command 170.5 TNF Fire Net 1
AG 169.4625
AA 118.975

 

[radioprescott]

A4S-950 / TNF-1669 CENTRAL 2020

Started as a initial attack on state land managed by ADFFM, now managed by same T1 team as Bush

Command 170.5 TNF Fire Net -2- [oops]
AG 169.4625
AA 118.975

 

[radioprescott]

UPDATE: TNF-1669 CENTRAL 2020

Command: 170.4125 output 131.8; [designated Command 9 per COMT testing repeater]
Also hearing link to above on 408.7875 , no tone.

 

[Paysonscanner]

408.

UPDATE: TNF-1669 CENTRAL 2020

Command: 170.4125 output 131.8; [designated Command 9 per COMT testing repeater]
Also hearing link to above on 408.7875 , no tone.

408.7875 is NIFC Command Link 3. But, this from a 2008 National Incident Radio Support Cache official list. It may have been changed around since. Your observation shows that one frequency has not changed though.

 

[Paysonscanner]

UPDATE: TNF-1669 CENTRAL 2020

Command: 170.4125 output 131.8; [designated Command 9 per COMT testing repeater]
Also hearing link to above on 408.7875 , no tone.

The NIRSC list shows this as Command 10, but the incident placed it in their Channel 9 position. To confuse things this is actually NIFOG IR 2 with an input of 165.9625. The national tone list, per the NIRSC, has 131.8 as "Tone 3." This is identical to the California Interagency Tone List (federal/state). They were the first to adopt a standard tone list for everyone to work from. Other USFS Regions and BLM State Offices have put these in their own order and some use "non-standard" tones. On the Yarnell Hill/Granite Mtn. incident disparate tones were listed as an issue for that event. You would think everyone, federal and state land management/wildland fire agencies would want to go to the national standard right now.

 

[radioprescott]

The NIRSC list shows this as Command 10, but the incident placed it in their Channel 9 position. To confuse things this is actually NIFOG IR 2 with an input of 165.9625. ...

Can confirm the input as 165.9625 tone 131.8....The COMT apparently at a high spot and I heard him direct on the input.

 

[radioprescott]

Can confirm the input as 165.9625 tone 131.8....The COMT apparently at a high spot and I heard him direct on the input.

And COMT IDed the repeater location on the input as "Horsethief Lookout". USFS has a tower there, BLM has a radio site there.

 

[radioprescott]

...appears this Command channel is managed by 'Bush Communications'. As far as I can tell, the Central and Bush fires are being managed by the same IMT, so makes sense.

 

[Paysonscanner]

H

Hope he’s doing better.

Thank you! The news went from "I hope he doesn't have Covid-19" to the terrible diagnosis of pneumonia. We caught it real early, so his chances are good. So many people in their late 80's and 90's are healthy until they get pneumonia and die. I monitor him very closely at home and this kinda came out of nowhere. He is a real tough man though and is putting up a good fight. He is exceeding what the slave driver (respiratory therapist ) gives him. Some older folks can't meet the challenge and pass away rather quickly. The entire focus of my life has changed to taking care of my parents for however long it lasts. For this and the other rewards, I'm glad I took nursing in college.

 

[radioprescott]

A4S-989 AQUILA 2020
N 27TH LN/W VIA AQUILA , PHX

CMD 151.400
CMD 154.860
AG 151.175
AA 132.125
AA 135.675

Multiple VLATS, SEATS
Evacuating community.

In the middle of the Presidential TFR and heading to the Central TFR. Lots of comms about the VLATS "busting the TFR" and being advised to steer way clear. One of the SEATS not squawking correct code, causing ATC problems.

 

[radioprescott]

A4S-989 AQUILA 2020
N 27TH LN/W VIA AQUILA , PHX

CMD 151.400
CMD 154.860
AG 151.175
AA 132.125 VICTOR
AA 135.675 ROTOR

Multiple VLATS, SEATS, requested Super Scoopers to work out of Lake Pleasant!
Evacuating community.

In the middle of the Presidential TFR and heading to the Central TFR. Lots of comms about the VLATS "busting the TFR" and being advised to steer way clear. One of the SEATS not squawking correct code, causing ATC problems.

 

[firecaptdave]

Anyone know where are the Super Scoopers being based out of, how many are in AZ?

 

[radioprescott]

ASD-B showed them working out of Falcon Field for the Bush Fire scoping from Apache Lake. .... there were 2 on the Aquila fire scooping from Lake Pleasant: Scoop 261 and 262

 

[Paysonscanner]

For many in Arizona they are now waking up to the fact that they have the Wildland-Urban Interface challenge in the Valley of the Sun. The AZDFFM needs to get even stronger. Some support was thrown their way after the Yarnell Hill tragedy, but I've got the feeling they are going to need more. Daddy has been telling me this since the late 1980's, he was a civil engineer who did a lot of reading of natural resource, wildland fire ecology. He's living long enough to see some tendencies he first learned about in the 1940's and 1950's actually develop into what many predicted. WUI zone private property fuel reductions efforts are going to need to step up. Daddy is watching TV and briefly related this to me.

 

[radioprescott]

I'd like to get confirmation of these BLM law enforcement channels:

165.6000 P25 NAC 430
169.8000 P25 NAC 455
170.0250 P25 NAC 656 (Most active) ...

John
Peoria

I can confirm 169.8, NAC 455. Unit citing a person for overstaying....from my QTH likely the Horsethief repeater.

 

[Paysonscanner]

I can confirm 169.8, NAC 455. Unit citing a person for overstaying....from my QTH likely the Horsethief repeater.

Great! The info I have doesn't show a "Horsethief" repeater on any of the BLM Colorado River District nets. Did you catch the name of the dispatch? I would assume Prescott as that center is shown for both the Colorado River District and Phoenix District. By the way, I've been back in Arizona for more than a year and a half, my pronunciation of "Prescott" has evolved from "Press Cot" back to "Pres cut."