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Hey guys, I have a quick question. I have my 536 all set up, firmware updated and my lists set but while it's scanning, it scans through each site really slow. Is there something I can do to make it scan faster?

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Hey guys, I have a quick question. I have my 536 all set up, firmware updated and my lists set but while it's scanning, it scans through each site really slow. Is there something I can do to make it scan faster?

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Your probably scanning through all the control channels
Try finding witch one has the best signal and (set to avoid) all the rest of them also it would be a good time to avoid anything in that group your not interested in
I would also recommend using Sentinel for editing and ProScan for your Radio control software Proscan has its own editing however I just find Sentinel easier to work with

Hope that helps :)
 
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Hey guys, I have a quick question. I have my 536 all set up, firmware updated and my lists set but while it's scanning, it scans through each site really slow. Is there something I can do to make it scan faster?

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For a single site, it takes a certain amount of time for the scanner to get the data i needs from the control channel.

However, if you are scanning a multi-site system, such as TACN, you should only have the site(s) in your own county, and only the others in adjacent counties if they are in range. The more sites the scanner has to check, as kb6hlm noted, the longer it will take.
 

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Thanks for the comments guys. I have the sites for the surrounding counties programmed in but don't get much of a signal from them. I guess I'll delete those. I'm also using ProScan, too. That program is absolutely amazing!

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You should only have the primary and alternate control channels listed in your sites. Do not put the voice channels in the site.
 

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It needs to monitor each control channel for about 1,5sec so it will scan sites slow. There's no way around it. You can see that most scanner listeners have several scanners to compensate for the slow scan rate of trunked sites. Some systems can also be monitored using cheap $100 digital radios. I only have a few systems in my area but still have to use 2 digital scanners and 3 DMR radios to catch most of the conversations, and then several conventional scanners to take care of the analog stuff and search for new unknown transmitters.

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It needs to monitor each control channel for about 1,5sec so it will scan sites slow. There's no way around it. You can see that most scanner listeners have several scanners to compensate for the slow scan rate of trunked sites. Some systems can also be monitored using cheap $100 digital radios. I only have a few systems in my area but still have to use 2 digital scanners and 3 DMR radios to catch most of the conversations, and then several conventional scanners to take care of the analog stuff and search for new unknown transmitters.

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I do the same with several scanners to keep up with the Ohio-MARCS system and my local favorites. (OP) Check into your own local system and streamline it so you're not scanning distant sites and TGs you don't have to, thus slowing down your scan rate. If you have more than one digital scanner try scanning the same system - put one scanner scanning in ascending order, another in descending order, etc etc - if you have a large system there you will be surprised what all you might be missing.

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I do the same with several scanners to keep up with the Ohio-MARCS system and my local favorites. (OP) Check into your own local system and streamline it so you're not scanning distant sites and TGs you don't have to, thus slowing down your scan rate. If you have more than one digital scanner try scanning the same system - put one scanner scanning in ascending order, another in descending order, etc etc - if you have a large system there you will be surprised what all you might be missing.

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I might give that a try. I've got a 436 just sitting on the shelf. I've cut the sites on my lists down to just 2 and I'm picking up a lot more.

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I'm guessing you are NOT using location control, or possibility have a very high scanner Range value.

What is happening is the scanner will go to a site, then once on that site "listen" to each frequency associated with the site to see if it detects control channel data. If the data is detected, the scanner remains on that frequency for a few moments to see if there are any transmissions pertaining to talkgroups you have active. Once all that is done, the scanner goes to the next site and repeats the process.

Being sure you are only attempting to receive only those sites close enough to "hear" a signal, is the key to most efficient scanning.

I respectfully disagree with using only listed control and alternate control channels, omitting voice frequencies. Sometimes errors happen and what is thought to be "just" a voice channel, ends up being a control channel. (This is Upman's advice as well).
 

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Just a note that if there are no signal that are strong enough to open at the level of the squelch setting, then it skips channels at the regular scan rate of 50-100ch/s. So if you have lots of sites that are not within receive range it will only give you a minimal delay for each site, 20 milli seconds for each frequency. If there are only a carrier or voice on a channel and not a proper datasignal, then it will not dwell 1,5 sec on it, only something like 80-120mS, just long enough to sense that there are no digital ones and zeros to detect.

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LMAO you guys crack me up !

Its funny when I posted my first answer to a very simple easy question i just knew someone would be in here to over analyze it !

If you look at Proscan you will see the same IDs repeating on different control channels just find the one that has the best RSSI and avoid the other ones its that easy

Come on guys keep it simple for a newbe :) no reason to get all fancy Its like getting your AC fixed and asking the technician what was wrong with it BTW I am one and I get that all the time

AKcody7 I'm sure you will figure it out its really not as complicated as it sounds and no you don't need more scanners that can do the same thing as one can do that's probably why you got the 536 in the first place like I said before your better off using Sentinel for editing and just create Favorites for example: find what is using the CC with what VC you want to hear its easy to do Lets say you have folder called PD and one FD you will see in that folder all the CCs are now in both folders if they are using the same ones of course now go down the list and Avoid the CCs your not interested in or no SIG or just carry the same traffic anyway

In time you will be able to see exactly whats going on and if you want to see whats really going on like I do, try using a SDR dongle I use programs like Unitrunker \ DSDplus \ Trunk PCR for my Icom PCR2500 and a bunch more

When you run those programs you will see if your scanner has missed something and some weird stuff going on there LOL

Have fun :)
 
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