Active shooter loose around MIT

[mainetrunk]

sheesh! Someone will complain before it's over. Aka a badge may be peeved that people in florida, oregon,,,, all listenning to them + 1 may be a terrorist may also be listenning, therefore the perp could hear the ops. But, who has the time and skilled to listen to at least 1 scanner while running for your life--outside of jail.. It's 1 thing we cannot go there and help, but let us know whats going on in our country.

 

[wildboar]

Ustream has the link right on their homepage:

MA Rt. 9 Window Cam on USTREAM: A live look outside my window. Other 24/7

The "colonel" just came on and told them to terminate the downlink because it's being broadcast on the internet.

 

[ScannaMan9]

They got him!!
Thankfully no one was hurt


~Scannaman9
Sent from my iPhone 4S using taptalk

 

[KB1UAM]

Who hear heard mayor menino on areawide 4 lastnight? Then all the pos said thank you and stuff. Then we got one knucklehead stating can we have a contract now?!!! I laughed out loud when I heard that one. That officer was brave Haha. Don't the radios on all BAPERN channels have id numbers?

 

[ecps92]

And if you think with all that is STILL going on, that officials are going to waste time with something as trivial as that, it just proves what we already know. :roll:

Who hear heard mayor menino on areawide 4 lastnight? Then all the pos said thank you and stuff. Then we got one knucklehead stating can we have a contract now?!!! I laughed out loud when I heard that one. That officer was brave Haha. Don't the radios on all BAPERN channels have id numbers?

 

[phillydjdan]

Yeah, who gives a crap about a couple of comments over the radio, the important thing is they got the bastard, although personally I would have preferred he NOT be alive, as the tax payers would have a much smaller burden. Hats off to the guy on USTREAM who kept his feed up and was able to handle the load.

 

[ScannaMan9]

Yeah, who gives a crap about a couple of comments over the radio, the important thing is they got the bastard, although personally I would have preferred he NOT be alive, as the tax payers would have a much smaller burden. Hats off to the guy on USTREAM who kept his feed up and was able to handle the load.

I would've done it on Ustream, but i'm 45min away from there....
If you think about it, if they shot him, or gave him the death penalty, he would be dead.
BUT, if we gave him LIFE in solitary confinement, it would be much, much more miserable for him.

 

[Ensnared]

Bravo Boston PD & LE Involved

I want to say, "well done" for all those involved in the capture of maggot & the killing of another.

In this case, the Boston PD were savvy enough to realize the benefits from broadcasting in the clear, provided they have encrypted channels since I've not reviewed such. I heard a news broadcast play a scanner audio of them saying, "put that out over channel one."

My thoughts & prayers are with the ones who gave their lives & the families impacted by this horrible chain of events.

 

[phillydjdan]

You also need to take into consideration that there was a LOT of patching between systems during this incident. State Police, BAPERN, Boston, etc were all patched together in one way or another. So what if one of those channels were encrypted? Wouldn't be worth crap, since it would be patched to a non-encrypted channel, thus defeating the whole purpose. If you plan on using patches during a large scale event, forget about encryption. If they were smart, they would have already considered that, and is probably one of the main reasons the encrypted channels were not used.

 

[garys]

There aren't that many encrypted channels in use in the Boston area. BPD has one or two, but they aren't programmed into all radios. There are some smaller towns that have encrypted systems, but that's the exception.

It doesn't seem that this guy was interested in carrying a scanner either. Their general procedure seems to be to stay off of the radar until they carry out their attack.Since they also seem to like suicide attacks, they won't much care about what happens afterwards. These two were an exception and I have to believe that until they were IDed and caught, they planned to do more of this, but still without using scanners.

It seems that it's more drug dealers than anyone else using scanners and feeds to facilitate their activities. That's just my impression, though.

You also need to take into consideration that there was a LOT of patching between systems during this incident. State Police, BAPERN, Boston, etc were all patched together in one way or another. So what if one of those channels were encrypted? Wouldn't be worth crap, since it would be patched to a non-encrypted channel, thus defeating the whole purpose. If you plan on using patches during a large scale event, forget about encryption. If they were smart, they would have already considered that, and is probably one of the main reasons the encrypted channels were not used.

 

[RadioDaze]

I can picture Jack Bauer already making his way into the hospital room... telling the guard there's a phone call for him, "You go ahead, I'll watch the prisoner."... unplugging the security cameras...

 

[Ensnared]

Mutual Aid During Incident

You also need to take into consideration that there was a LOT of patching between systems during this incident. State Police, BAPERN, Boston, etc were all patched together in one way or another. So what if one of those channels were encrypted? Wouldn't be worth crap, since it would be patched to a non-encrypted channel, thus defeating the whole purpose. If you plan on using patches during a large scale event, forget about encryption. If they were smart, they would have already considered that, and is probably one of the main reasons the encrypted channels were not used.

Oddly enough, I was out of town 300 miles from Waco when the fertilizer plant blew up. So, I've never heard mutual aid and/or interop channels during a disaster. In Boston,I suppose the tactical channels were not being patched; however, I don't know much about the radio systems up there.

Thanks for your comment.

 

[mainetrunk]

I heard them last night celebrating on Bapern4.. Good work. God bless America

 

[garys]

Oddly enough, I was out of town 300 miles from Waco when the fertilizer plant blew up. So, I've never heard mutual aid and/or interop channels during a disaster. In Boston,I suppose the tactical channels were not being patched; however, I don't know much about the radio systems up there.

Thanks for your comment.

The tactical channels were being patched across mutliple bands and trunking talk groups. I could put each one of the three scanners I was using on a different channel or talk group and hear the same radio traffic. There were other, unpatched channels as well, but the main channels were cross patched.

 

[mainetrunk]

Thats 1 strong repeater, blowing my doors off.

 

[MisterK33]

Ustream has the link right on their homepage:

MA Rt. 9 Window Cam on USTREAM: A live look outside my window. Other 24/7

The "colonel" just came on and told them to terminate the downlink because it's being broadcast on the internet.

I was listening to the same feed!

While I don't do a lot of stream listening since I got my scanner back in Jan, I did do A LOT of listening over the last couple days to the Boston area feed. Let me tell you, when you hear officers staring that they're being shot at with automatic weapons, and that the suspects have grenades, it's something else. Totally glued to that feed for almost 2 hers early Sat morning...

 

[mainetrunk]

I was getting them via skyband antenna to pro197..Plus uhf antenna Strong signal.

 

[garys]

Thats 1 strong repeater, blowing my doors off.

It's not just one repeater, since Areawide 4 is used over all of eastern MA. The BAPERN system has been in place since the mid 1970s and has expanded and improved over the years. Interop got an early start in eastern MA due to civil unrest at Harvard University in 1970. The various agencies used different bands and frequencies and there was no common frequency available to officers in the field. The existing VHF Intercity frequency was only for use base to base.

The BAPERN system was conceived and built using the then newly available UHF-T band. As technology progressed and radios became more broad banded, regular UHF frequencies were added to the mix. That allowed Quincy and some other departments to have radios that operated on the BAPERN regional and system wide frequencies and retain their UHF channels for local operations.

About 1980 or so, Metrofire which covers the greater Boston area, started a similar migration to the 48x. part of the T band.

Both systems got a lot of federal funding after 9/11 and BAPERN in particular expanded to cover a much larger area than initially planned.

Massachusetts, particularly eastern MA, is very well set up for interoperability. We saw that in use during the past several days as police officers from all over the state as well as New Hampshire and even NY City were able to communicate effectively.

I think it worked pretty well myself.

 

[Ensnared]

The Way It Is Supposed To Work

The tactical channels were being patched across mutliple bands and trunking talk groups. I could put each one of the three scanners I was using on a different channel or talk group and hear the same radio traffic. There were other, unpatched channels as well, but the main channels were cross patched.

Awesome. When law enforcement works with such surgical precision, it is pretty impressive to witness. I would imagine the scanners were popping.

I wonder how this will be viewed by those in LE? According to HLN, people were tweeting what the heard on their online scanner application.

Keep things in the clear. I believe communities can help law enforcement when they listen to scanners and act responsibly. LE asked for people to send in their videos.

 

[ecps92]

Well written Gary

It's not just one repeater, since Areawide 4 is used over all of eastern MA. The BAPERN system has been in place since the mid 1970s and has expanded and improved over the years. Interop got an early start in eastern MA due to civil unrest at Harvard University in 1970. The various agencies used different bands and frequencies and there was no common frequency available to officers in the field. The existing VHF Intercity frequency was only for use base to base.

The BAPERN system was conceived and built using the then newly available UHF-T band. As technology progressed and radios became more broad banded, regular UHF frequencies were added to the mix. That allowed Quincy and some other departments to have radios that operated on the BAPERN regional and system wide frequencies and retain their UHF channels for local operations.

About 1980 or so, Metrofire which covers the greater Boston area, started a similar migration to the 48x. part of the T band.

Both systems got a lot of federal funding after 9/11 and BAPERN in particular expanded to cover a much larger area than initially planned.

Massachusetts, particularly eastern MA, is very well set up for interoperability. We saw that in use during the past several days as police officers from all over the state as well as New Hampshire and even NY City were able to communicate effectively.

I think it worked pretty well myself.