AFRRCS - Alberta First Responders' Radio Communication System - Updates

Treaty7

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Have not heard anything on these new TGs since Friday afternoon.
Thank you for the update I’m wondering if AHS may add these TAC Talk groups to their radios like they did for Edmonton
AHS radios have Edmonton Fire Working aka TAC Talk groups programmed.
 

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Why were the Regional dispatch channels 1393 REGIONAL DISPATCH WEST, 1394 REGIONAL DISPATCH WEST, 6382 FD TAC 1, 6383 FD TAC 2,
6388 FD TAC 7 moved from Rockyview County to Redwood Meadows Emergency Services?
 

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Your answer is best explained by reading @Jay911's reply here:

I was wondering because Rockyview FD, Cochrane FD, Redwood Meadows FD are on those channels .
 

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I was wondering because Rockyview FD, Cochrane FD, Redwood Meadows FD are on those channels .

There are several other agencies as well, not necessarily within the same county(ies).

I have to be careful to not run afoul of my employer's rules about sharing information that I am privy to from within its ranks. Sorry, I can't provide more details. Really, I would consider these channels to cover a relatively broad area around the Calgary region.
 

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I could create an appropriate subcategory for the wide area talkgroups if someone (other than Jay911 due to NDA) could give me some guidance.
 

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I could create an appropriate subcategory for the wide area talkgroups if someone (other than Jay911 due to NDA) could give me some guidance.
When I first discovered these talk groups Rockyview Fire departments was on heard on there first, then Cochrane FD, then Redwoood Medows FD.
How about something a long the lines of Calgary Rural?( Used by Fire Departments outside Calgary)
 

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When I first discovered these talk groups Rockyview Fire departments was on heard on there first, then Cochrane FD, then Redwoood Medows FD.
How about something a long the lines of Calgary Rural?( Used by Fire Departments outside Calgary)
How about calling them CALGARY 911 RURAL?
 

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A few times recently I have heard what sounds like a police surveillance operation on TG 6405.
Has anyone else noticed?
I've heard the same on TG 6402 in the Edmonton area before. I cant tell if its training or legitimate surveillance. Haven't heard them in a little while though.
 
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These have been active again today. Info has been submitted for the database.
I have been hearing these BRAVO and CHARLIE channels stated by Calgary FD Dispatchers. I may not be 100% on this but heard scuttlebutt that these are going to be used as communication between AHS Medics & CFD crews for medical calls, fof AHS and CFD unit on-scene or enroute.

Similar to Edmonton Fire and AHS, they are assigned a medical channel to talk to each other enroute to calls. For instance, AHS can cancel the fire unit responding via Radio(visa versa) instead of having to go through dispatcher(s).
These are supposedly for larger cities only. I believe other smaller areas will be still using Mutual Aid channels i.e AFFRCS MA- 11 etc.
 

R_Rabbit10

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I could create an appropriate subcategory for the wide area talkgroups if someone (other than Jay911 due to NDA) could give me some guidance.

Calgary 911 'owns' the tac channels 1-13 and dispatch West, East and Spare.
Eventually most, if not all, rural fire agencies that C911 dispatches will be using these channels.

Currently the following agencies use these channels:
Dispatch West: Cochrane (151), Bighorn (167, 168, 169), RVC stn 101, 102, 103, 105 and Redwood Meadows (120).

Dispatch East: Crossfield (154, also still uses their UHF channels), Chestermere (116), RVC stn 107, 108, 111 and Beiseker (130).

Most dispatchers allocate TAC channels 1-6 to West and 7-13 to East calls, however this is dispatcher dependant and not protocol/set in stone.

For now, Tsuut'ina Nation (145), Stoney Nakoda (165), Kananaskis (96) and Canmore will remain on their own separate dispatch channels.
The next departments going over in the future are 145 and 165 (however, no timeline).

Most agencies will keep their own AFRRCS channels and have repurposed them for internal communications.
 

R_Rabbit10

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I have been hearing these BRAVO and CHARLIE channels stated by Calgary FD Dispatchers. I may not be 100% on this but heard scuttlebutt that these are going to be used as communication between AHS Medics & CFD crews for medical calls, fof AHS and CFD unit on-scene or enroute.

Similar to Edmonton Fire and AHS, they are assigned a medical channel to talk to each other enroute to calls. For instance, AHS can cancel the fire unit responding via Radio(visa versa) instead of having to go through dispatcher(s).
These are supposedly for larger cities only. I believe other smaller areas will be still using Mutual Aid channels i.e AFFRCS MA- 11 etc.
The B and C channels are Fire Department tactical channels (Other than B13 and C13 as those are the dispatch channels) on the Calgary Municipal Radio Network (CMRN) and allocated to North and South Calgary (the city is devided into two zones for dispatch).

CFD can communicate with AHS on the AFRRCS Calgary AHS Mutual Aid channels. AHS EMS does not have access to the CMRN channels.

Dispatchers don't routinely monitor tactical channels, as there are only 2 fire dispatchers in C911 that do the city and all the rural departments.

On their consoles the dispatchers have all the CFD channels, all the rural fire department channels, all the regional and provincial CET's, all the Calgary and SCC AHS MA talkgroups and several Firenet channels. Now, they obviously do not have all these channels turned on at all times, but on average they do monitor 10-15 channels at all times, where one dispatchers does North Calgary and the other South Calgary and both do rural.

Due to AHS EMS protocols, Fire cannot stand down AHS EMS if they are not the original caller, which can be a waste of resources. AHS medical directors are working with EMS to get these protocols changed, however this is a slow process and not a lot of headway has been made.
 

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Can someone add the following channels to the "Calgary 911 - Rural" list in the database?

DECAlpha TagDescription
1395Reg FD Disp SpRegional Fire Dispatch Spare
6384RFD TAC 3Regional Fire TAC 3
6385RFD TAC 4Regional Fire TAC 4
6386RFD TAC 5Regional Fire TAC 5
6387RFD TAC 6Regional Fire TAC 6
6389RFD TAC 8Regional Fire TAC 8
6390RFD TAC 9Regional Fire TAC 9
6391RFD TAC 10Regional Fire TAC 10
6392RFD TAC 11Regional Fire TAC 11
6393RFD TAC 12Regional Fire TAC 12
6394RFD TAC 13Regional Fire TAC 13
 

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Sounds like Sturgeon County Fire is transitioning to AFRRCS finally. Heard Gibbons fire on TG 5758 responding to a fire the other day, and tonight I heard the pager tests for Namao and Calahoo on TG 5297. Also heard the pager test for Bon Accord on TG 6251. Didnt hear Morinville or any others on AFRRCS however, though I might have missed the others.

I should note I still heard them do pager tests on their usual analog repeaters before they did pager tests on their talkgroups, so i'm assuming theyre just in a soft transition phase for now.
 

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Is there a link TG that allows Sask and Alb RCMP to talk. I am thinking of Lloyd or do they have hybrid radios?
RCMP have multiband radios in Alberta, VHF/700MHz. My guess is they may have a zone for the Saskatchewan(VHF) system. Being that both Alberta and Saskatchewan are Harris networks, they are also probably linked in some fashion and/or RCMP have the ability to patch AB/SK talkgroups.
 
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