AFRRCS - Alberta First Responders' Radio Communication System - Updates

[dadsbearcat100]

A few times recently I have heard what sounds like a police surveillance operation on TG 6405.
Has anyone else noticed?

I'm also hearing police surveillance activity on this channel and it seems they are working in Picture Butte right now. I am wondering if it’s possible that it could be Alberta Law Enforcement Response Team (ALERT) using this channel.

 

[OneBadWolf]

If it's in the clear, it's probably training.

 

[ESF-12]

TG 6253 Redwater Fire/Sturgeon County Fire Station 7

Anyone else able to confirm?

 

[harryshute]

TG 6253 Redwater Fire/Sturgeon County Fire Station 7

Anyone else able to confirm?

I can confirm that.

 

[avgas]

I am hearing what sounds like Park Rangers or Fish and Wildlife on 3143. They are talking about campers in the Beaver Mines and Castle Falls area. I have heard the same dispatcher talk about a traffic stop on the #1 Highway. I am only hearing one side of the conversation, so its pretty hard to figure out whom it may be.

 

[harryshute]

I am hearing what sounds like Park Rangers or Fish and Wildlife on 3143. They are talking about campers in the Beaver Mines and Castle Falls area. I have heard the same dispatcher talk about a traffic stop on the #1 Highway. I am only hearing one side of the conversation, so its pretty hard to figure out whom it may be.

3143 is the All Call/Fleet Call for Alberta Parks in the South. They have the Dispatch PRCC/ESO in the clear. You should see Agency 403 UID's when they transmit.
I get this group in Edmonton perhaps because PRCC is here.
Once PRCC makes contact with a CO or Conservation Officer on their local PRCC group the call is dispatched.

 

[ESF-12]

TGID 4551-Fort Saskatchewan Fire [Scene 1]

I thought this was added already some time ago. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly...

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi guys

It's your neighbor from next door, you know, Saskatchewan.

I have several of questions for you guys.

1. Where are the dynamic regroups (patches) to be found in your data base? Your P25 system must utilize them.

2. Do you guys ever see anything like what is seen in my Unitrunker screenshot?

These are 3 link-radio IDs seen in use on the PPSTN.
There are several more like these in use.
We suspect that at least 3 others similar to these may be used to link the PPSTN to the AFRRCS.

When these patches are in use only the one RID is ever seen on the talk-group, as it is a link-radio connected to another link-radio on the other radio network, so those RIDs are never seen.

Your assistance in this matter will be greatly appreciated.

 

[kayn1n32008]

Hi guys

It's your neighbor from next door, you know, Saskatchewan.

I have several of questions for you guys.

1. Where are the dynamic regroups (patches) to be found in your data base? Your P25 system must utilize them.

2. Do you guys ever see anything like what is seen in my Unitrunker screenshot?

These are 3 link-radio IDs seen in use on the PPSTN.
There are several more like these in use.
We suspect that at least 3 others similar to these may be used to link the PPSTN to the AFRRCS.

When these patches are in use only the one RID is ever seen on the talk-group, as it is a link-radio connected to another link-radio on the other radio network, so those RIDs are never seen.

Your assistance in this matter will be greatly appreciated.

I would guess that the networks are linked via ISSI.

As for link radios back to back, what are they linking to?

Using back to back radios would be an incredibly stupid way to tie an AFRRCS talkgroup to a PPSTN talkgroup.

 

[harryshute]

Hi guys

It's your neighbor from next door, you know, Saskatchewan.

I have several of questions for you guys.

1. Where are the dynamic regroups (patches) to be found in your data base? Your P25 system must utilize them.

2. Do you guys ever see anything like what is seen in my Unitrunker screenshot?

These are 3 link-radio IDs seen in use on the PPSTN.
There are several more like these in use.
We suspect that at least 3 others similar to these may be used to link the PPSTN to the AFRRCS.

When these patches are in use only the one RID is ever seen on the talk-group, as it is a link-radio connected to another link-radio on the other radio network, so those RIDs are never seen.

Your assistance in this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Don't think we have patch groups in the database. I've never logged them but from what I know they are SAID or Supergroups. They are in the 620XX range with 62097 as an example.

I've often wondered about the patches to Saskatchewan. With the RCMP I see four UID's when patched two for the Edmonton dispatch center and two for the Red Deer OCC.
RCMP K NAOCC 1 UID 4448000
RCMP K NAOCC 2 UID 4448001
RCMP K SAOCC 1 UID 4448002
RCMP K SAOCC 2 UID 4448003

Is PPSTN as Harris or Motorola System? AFRRCS is a Harris System.

 

[kayn1n32008]

Is PPSTN as Harris or Motorola System? AFRRCS is a Harris System.

It is a Harris VIDA system, same as AFRRCS.

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi

The PPSTN is a Harris system.
I thought that the two systems both being Harris would most certainly be linked via the Harris IP network and not with old fashioned link radios that are used to link the PPSTN to the Manitoba Motorola system.

Two link radios are also used to connect RPS and RFD to the PPSTN.

From what I have seen so far Harris Super-group patches will usually begin with the HEX A4, as all 99 in use on the PPSTN do.

I am hoping that one of you guys running a trunker program will share when a SG patch is seen like the ones in the screenshot.

If patches are seen in use simultaneously on both systems that would be exactly what I would like to see.

Cheers

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi, all

The attached zip file contains all of the super-group IDs that I believe are utilized by the AFRRCS.

Please have a look at it.

Cheers!

 

[kayn1n32008]

Hi

The PPSTN is a Harris system.
I thought that the two systems both being Harris would most certainly be linked via the Harris IP network and not with old fashioned link radios that are used to link the PPSTN to the Manitoba Motorola system.

It should absolutely be possible to link them by IP, even if it's through the ISSI protocol. AFRRCS and the city of Calgary(Motorola) systems are linked via ISSI.

My guess is, laziness to be using subscriber radios to link these networks.

Two link radios are also used to connect RPS and RFD to the PPSTN.

I can't for the life of me understand why they would do this. The P25 spec has methods to link separate systems with out resorting to subscribers to facilitate it.

 

[dadsbearcat100]

Hi, all

The attached zip file contains all of the super-group IDs that I believe are utilized by the AFRRCS.

Please have a look at it.

Cheers!

Cool I’ve never heard about supergroup id’s before

 

[R_Rabbit10]

Up to date AFRRCS user id list attached. If someone could add that to the database.

 

[ESF-12]

660C5.05A, TGID 5362 "Beaumont Fire TAC 2"

 

[R_Rabbit10]

If someone could add the following to the database:

Stettler Regional Fire

6752	SRFD DISPATCH*	Stettler Regional Fire Dispatch
6752 Page	SRFD STN 1/2/3/4 PAGE*	Stettler Regional Fire Page Station 1/2/3/4
6753	SRFD TAC 1*	Stettler Regional Fire Tac 1
6754	SRFD TAC 2*	Stettler Regional Fire Tac 2
6755	SRFD TAC 3*	Stettler Regional Fire Tac 3
6756	SRFD OPS	Stettler Regional Fire Operations
6757	SRFD TAC 4	Stettler Regional Fire Tac 4
6758	SRFD TAC 5	Stettler Regional Fire Tac 5
6759	SRFD TAC 6	Stettler Regional Fire Tac 6
6760	SRFD Training	Stettler Regional Fire Training
6761	SREMA EOC	Stettler Regional Emergency Management Agency Emergency Operations Centre
6762	SREMA OPS1	Stettler Regional Emergency Management Agency Operations 1
6763	SREMA OPS2	Stettler Regional Emergency Management Agency Operations 2
6764	SREMA PLNG1	Stettler Regional Emergency Management Agency Planning Section 1
6765	SREMA PLNG2	Stettler Regional Emergency Management Agency Planning Section 2
6766	SREMA LOGS1	Stettler Regional Emergency Management Agency Logistics Section 1
6767	SREMA LOGS2	Stettler Regional Emergency Management Agency Logistics Section 2
*)	Monitored by dispatch

Kneehill County

5339​	Acme Fire	Acme Fire
5340​	Carbon Fire	Carbon Fire
5341​	Linden Fire	Linden Fire
5342​	Three Hills Fire	Three Hills Fire
5343​	Torrington Fire	Torrington Fire
5344​	Throchu Fire	Throchu Fire
5345​	KC Tac1	Kneehill County Tac 1
5346​	KC Tac2	Kneehill County Tac 2
5347​	KC Tac3	Kneehill County Tac 3
5350​	KC Tac4	Kneehill County Tac 4
5351​	KC Tac5	Kneehill County Tac 5
5352​	KC ICP1	Kneehill County Incident Command Post 1
5353​	KC IPC2	Kneehill County Incident Command Post 2
5354​	KC Training	Kneehill County Training
5355​	KC LOGS1	Kneehill County Logistics Section 1
5356​	KC LOGS2	Kneehill County Logistics Section 2
5357​	KC PLAN	Kneehill County Planning Section

Morinville

2396​	Announce	Morinville Announce - Only Fire Channels
2398​	Morinville CPO	Morinville CPO Channel
2399​	Morinville Traffic	Morinville Traffic Channel
2400​	Morinville Dispatch	Morinville Fire Dispatch Channel
2401​	Morinville Working 1	Morinville Working Channel 1
2402​	Morinville Mutual Aid	Morinville Mutual Aid Channel
2403​	Morinville Working 2	Morinville Working Channel 2
2404​	Morinville Working 3	Morinville Working Channel 3

Sturgeon County Emergency Services

5278​	Sturgeon Working Channel 10	Sturgeon County Working Channel 10
5279​	Sturgeon Working Channel 9	Sturgeon County Working Channel 9
5280​	Sturgeon Working Channel 8	Sturgeon County Working Channel 8
5297​	Station 1 Calahoo Dispatch	Station 1 Calahoo Dispatch Channel
5758​	Station 6 Gibbons Dispatch	Station 6 Gibbons Dispatch Channel
6248​	Sturgeon Working 21	Sturgeon County Working Channel 21
6249​	Station 3 Legal Dispatch	Station 3 Legal Dispatch Channel
6250​	Station 4 Namao Dispatch	Station 4 Namao Dispatch Channel - For Future
6251​	Station 5 Bon Accord Dispatch	Station 5 Bon Accord Dispatch Channel
6252​	Sturgeon Working 22	Sturgeon County Working Channel 22
6253​	Station 7 Redwater Dispatch	Station 7 Redwater Dispatch Channel

Gibbons Fire

5758​	Main / Dispatch Channel	Gibbons Main Dispatch Channel
5759​	Gibbons Working 1	Gibbons Working Channel 1
5760​	Gibbons Working 2	Gibbons Working Channel 2
5761​	Gibbons Mutual Aid	Gibbons Mutual Aid Channel

NRCAER

NRCAER

An Alberta mutual aid emergency response association that includes emergency responders from industry, pipeline companies, chemical transporters, and area municipal emergency response departments.

www.nrcaer.com

4580​

NRCAER

NRCAER MA - Fort Saskachewan City

St Albert

4498​

St Alberta Fire

St Albert City Fire Services Shared

Penhold

6642	Penhold Dispatch
6643	Penhold TAC1
6644	Penhold TAC2
6645	Penhold TAC3
6646	Penhold TAC4

 

[harryshute]

I enjoyed the postings of the new Lacombe County Fire groups in the database.

Have Clive or Eckville gone live? My guess and just a guess. Clive Fire Dispatch 5088, Tac 1 5089 and Tac 2 5090. Eckville Dispatch 5091, Tac 1 5092 and Tac 2 5093. I have a logging on 5094 not sure if it's in the mix.

I know Blackfalds and Sylvan Lake are now on AFFRCS. Is the City of Lacombe and Bashaw Fire?

 

[Cortexian]

If there were more than three AFRRCS nodes on the Calls Platform we might know!