AFRRCS - Alberta First Responders' Radio Communication System - Updates

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi, Intelliforce

Could you please log the control channel messages from site #252 along with the CC messages from another site.
Only a minute or so of logging a control channel is required.
Please post zip files of CC logs so that we can see what is going on there.

Cheers.

 

[emptyremix]

Hi All,
Poking around today I could see the control finally for 252, see below for output from CC in SDRTrunk:

Activity Summary - Decoder: P25 Phase 1 Simulcast (LSM)

Network
WACN:660C5[417989] SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] LRA:FC[252]

Current Site
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:FC[252] SITE:FC[252] LRA:FC[252] STATUS:ACTIVE RFSS NETWORK CONNECTION
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:0-381 DOWNLINK:773843750 UPLINK:803843750
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:0-444 DOWNLINK:774631250 UPLINK:804631250
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:0-460 DOWNLINK:774831250 UPLINK:804831250
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:0-467 DOWNLINK:774918750 UPLINK:804918750
CURRENT FDMA DATA CHANNEL:0-0 DOWNLINK:769081250 UPLINK:769081250
AVAILABLE SERVICES:[GROUP_VOICE, INDIVIDUAL_VOICE, INDIVIDUAL_DATA, UNIT_REGISTRATION, GROUP_AFFILIATION, AUTHENTICATION, USER_STATUS, USER_MESSAGE, UNIT_STATUS] SUPPORTED SERVICES:[GROUP_VOICE, INDIVIDUAL_VOICE, INDIVIDUAL_DATA, UNIT_REGISTRATION, GROUP_AFFILIATION, AUTHENTICATION, USER_STATUS, USER_MESSAGE, UNIT_STATUS]
Neighbor Sites
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:0E[14] SITE:0E[14] LRA:0E[14] CHANNEL:0-165 DOWNLINK:771143750 UPLINK:801143750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:11[17] SITE:11[17] LRA:11[17] CHANNEL:0-216 DOWNLINK:771781250 UPLINK:801781250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:12[18] SITE:12[18] LRA:12[18] CHANNEL:0-221 DOWNLINK:771843750 UPLINK:801843750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:13[19] SITE:13[19] LRA:13[19] CHANNEL:0-260 DOWNLINK:772331250 UPLINK:802331250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:15[21] SITE:15[21] LRA:15[21] CHANNEL:0-205 DOWNLINK:771643750 UPLINK:801643750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:20[32] SITE:20[32] LRA:20[32] CHANNEL:0-140 DOWNLINK:770831250 UPLINK:800831250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:23[35] SITE:23[35] LRA:23[35] CHANNEL:0-200 DOWNLINK:771581250 UPLINK:801581250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:24[36] SITE:24[36] LRA:24[36] CHANNEL:0-161 DOWNLINK:771093750 UPLINK:801093750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:2B[43] SITE:2B[43] LRA:2B[43] CHANNEL:0-205 DOWNLINK:771643750 UPLINK:801643750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:31[49] SITE:31[49] LRA:31[49] CHANNEL:0-240 DOWNLINK:772081250 UPLINK:802081250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:32[50] SITE:32[50] LRA:32[50] CHANNEL:0-28 DOWNLINK:769431250 UPLINK:799431250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:34[52] SITE:34[52] LRA:34[52] CHANNEL:0-18 DOWNLINK:769306250 UPLINK:799306250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:35[53] SITE:35[53] LRA:35[53] CHANNEL:0-126 DOWNLINK:770656250 UPLINK:800656250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:05A[90] NAC:3E3[995] RFSS:3A[58] SITE:3A[58] LRA:3A[58] CHANNEL:0-78 DOWNLINK:770056250 UPLINK:800056250 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]

Frequency Bands
BAND:0 FDMA BASE:769081250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
BAND:8 TDMA BASE:769081250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2

Active Patch Groups
None

Active System Radio Aliases
None

 

[ESF-12]

2025.08.18 19:38:10
2025.08.18 19:38:10 P25 data loaded; 2 networks, 303 sites, 1417 channels
2025.08.18 19:38:10 1625 frequency records loaded
2025.08.18 19:38:10 25,754 radio records loaded
2025.08.18 19:38:10 7558 group records loaded
2025.08.18 19:38:10 526 site records loaded
2025.08.18 19:38:10 2 network records loaded
2025.08.18 19:38:10 528 site loader records loaded
2025.08.18 19:38:10 P25 Phase 1 and Phase 2 decoding enabled

Mono audio decoding initiated; press Esc to exit...
2025.08.18 19:38:10 Startup Trunking Site Load: Waiting for FMPx link
2025.08.18 19:38:10 Initiating FMPx link using link ID 20002...
2025.08.18 19:38:10 FMPx link error = -5
2025.08.18 19:38:10 [Server is not listening on selected link ID]
2025.08.18 19:38:15 Initiating FMPx link using link ID 20002...
2025.08.18 19:38:15 FMPx link established; link ID = 20002
2025.08.18 19:38:15 FMPx link established
2025.08.18 19:38:15 Startup Trunking Site Load activated
2025.08.18 19:38:15 Loading all known site channels
2025.08.18 19:38:15 Tuning to 769.556250; dwell time = 2 sec
2025.08.18 19:38:18 Tuning to 770.581250; dwell time = 2 sec
2025.08.18 19:38:20 Tuning to 770.906250; dwell time = 2 sec
2025.08.18 19:38:22 Tuning to 772.006250; dwell time = 2 sec
2025.08.18 19:38:24 Tuning to 772.831250; dwell time = 2 sec
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Tuning to 773.843750; dwell time = 2 sec
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU ERR4 GRP_V_CH_GRANT_UPDT TG=3481 ch=0-460
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Multiple networks in data files assigned to current channel; unable to disambiguate
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Resetting current system information
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 TSDU ERR6 ADJ_STS_BCST SysID=05A LRA=35 RFSS=35 Site=35 CC=0-200 SC=70 CFVA=3: Networked
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU GRP_V_CH_GRANT_UPDT TG=1722 ch=0-214 / TG=2103 ch=0-144
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU SCCB RFSS=252 Site=252 [ch=0-467 SSC=04] [ch=0-444 SSC=04]
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU ERR3 GRP_V_CH_GRANT_UPDT TG=4293 ch=0-419
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 TSDU ERR1 SYNC_BCST US=0 IST=1 MMU=0 MC=0 VL=0 uSlot=0-612
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU ERR1 GRP_V_CH_GRANT_UPDT TG=2062 ch=0-467
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU GRP_V_CH_GRANT ENC PRI4 TG=1725 RID=4212120 ch=0-146
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU SN-DATA_CHN_ANN_EXP DSO=00 TXch=0-0 RXch=0-0 DAC=FFFF
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 NAC:3E3 TSDU GRP_V_CH_GRANT ENC PRI4 TG=1725 RID=4212120 ch=0-146
2025.08.18 19:38:26 Sync:+P25p1 TSDU ERR2 GRP_V_CH_GRANT_UPDT TG=1722 ch=0-214



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[kayn1n32008]

Something more has changed. I can no longer decode the control channel on site 252. St. Albert works fine. I just tried again on 774.63125.

Where are you located?

 

[ESF-12]

And site 252 is back to 23 frequencies with cc as 774.91875 now. scc: 773.84375, 774.63125, 774.83125. (As per DSD+) I know it connects to cc's differently than how a physical scanner would.

 

[Intelliforce]

Sorry for the delay in answering back. All I do is work. So, I got most of it figured out. All the control channels moved and my Unication only had the control channels programmed. So, I had to go into programming and put in the newly used control channels.
As far as DSDPlus goes, I guess it won't decode because of the simulcast. I even tried it in Radway, AB where Edmonton comes in clear thinking I'd only be picking up 1 tower but doesn't work there either. Is there a way to use SDR that will handle the simulcast?

 

[mciupa]

I find that SDRTrunk handles simulcast decently. Drawback is the band spread. You will need two dongles as there is a 5MHz spread on Site 252. SDRTrunk utilizes 2.8MHz coverage, so you'll miss some calls with only one.

 

[Cortexian]

I find that SDRTrunk handles simulcast decently. Drawback is the band spread. You will need two dongles as there is a 5MHz spread on Site 252. SDRTrunk utilizes 2.8MHz coverage, so you'll miss some calls with only one.

Concurrent bandwidth is limited by the SDR device not SDRTrunk. I have an SDRplay RSP1A and it'll do 9.5MHz in SDRTrunk.

 

[mciupa]

Thanks for pointing the SDR variations out.. I use a budget Nooelec SMArt with the limitations.