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Is there anything on the ground that indicates an airway intersection to an aircraft, or is everything on a flight chart. I hear more aircraft directed by intersection than a VOR. Where can I find Large maps with intersections.
 

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No...

There is usually not a physical radio transmitter on the ground, except it could be marked by a LF omni beacon. It's usually just the intersection of two VOR radials which often get renamed or moved anyway. :)

Oh and you can usually get sectional charts at smaller airport FBOs or probably on-line these daze. Try www.naco.faa.gov or Sporty's.
 

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nd5y said:
You can look up airport & navaid frequencies, etc. here:
http://www.airnav.com

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It's a little off the topic, but if you use this sight and locate an airport you can see it by clicking on the section for a satellite photo. That websight will allow you to put in a street address to see also. I looked up my parents address and saw my old neighborhood from above!
 

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akuter said:
Is there anything on the ground that indicates an airway intersection to an aircraft, or is everything on a flight chart. I hear more aircraft directed by intersection than a VOR. Where can I find Large maps with intersections.
Sectionals typically do not contain the names of intersections. Obtain an enroute chart for that.
 

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I was talking to a buddy in another department and he said that Sectionals will contain an intersection only if the intersection is above a VOR/DME navaid on the ground.
 

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What do I know anyway! It was a Cleveland Local from Dec 1960 I was looking at. Been a long time since I had any actual stick time! :roll:
 

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akuter said:
Is there anything on the ground that indicates an airway intersection to an aircraft, or is everything on a flight chart. I hear more aircraft directed by intersection than a VOR. Where can I find Large maps with intersections.

Commercial airliners fly IFR (Instrument Flight Rules). General Aviation, helicopters and other light aircraft fly VFR (Visual Flight Rules) mostly. There are a few types of charts. There are Terminal charts, Sectional charts, low altitude IFR charts and high altitude IFR charts. Terminal and Sectional charts are for VFR flight.


You can check http://www.myairplane.com for digital IFR charts. http://www.sportys.com/pilotshop is a good source for paper charts.
 

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crayon said:
I was talking to a buddy in another department and he said that Sectionals will contain an intersection only if the intersection is above a VOR/DME navaid on the ground.

Are you sure? On a San Francisco sectional I'm looking at several intersections right now that are nowhere near any navaids. Also, how would a sectional show an intersection above a VOR when the intersection is, by definition, where two or more navaid radials cross. You might want to ask your buddy for his definition of an intersection.

To answer the original question in this thread, no there is nothing on the ground to denote an intersection. They are only a point where two VOR or other navaid radials cross, and they are printed on various charts. You can get a sectional at pretty much any FBO or you can order one from Sporty's Pilot Shop (1-800-LIFTOFF). Intersections look like two or more small crossed blue or magenta arrows, with a five letter name such as JOTLY, BUSHY, or GILRO to name a few Bay Area examples. The intersection name will usually refer to a nearby landmark such as a town or city, but not always.
 

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ECPD279 said:
Are you sure?
hehe .. nope.
On a San Francisco sectional I'm looking at several intersections right now that are nowhere near any navaids. Also, how would a sectional show an intersection above a VOR when the intersection is, by definition, where two or more navaid radials cross.
Before posting I was doing some google'n on the matter and I found that an intersection can also be a certian amount of distance on a single radial.
You might want to ask your buddy for his definition of an intersection.
nawww, that'll be the last time I trust a FISDO guy to give me correct information! :)
 

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crayon said:
... I found that an intersection can also be a certian amount of distance on a single radial....

I think you're right.

crayon said:
nawww, that'll be the last time I trust a FISDO guy to give me correct information! :)

You can say that again!!! ;-)
 
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Intersections can also be at the intersection of 2 or more airways.

www.jeppesen.com is another good source of charts and stuff.

I am a virtual pilot on MS Flight Simulator/VATSIM virtual air traffic network. I fly a BAE 146 jet between Glasgow, Scotland and Dublin, Ireland. VATSIM is incredibly cool, a worldwide virtual community of pilots and live ATC with voice, with many airports. Procedures are very close to "real world", with clearance delivery, ground control, tower, departure, instrument departures, precision instrument approaches, etc. You see the other aircraft (and can collide with them, lol.) Anyway, the site is www.vatsim.net, there are links to all kinds of info, terminal maps, charts, departure and arrival procedures, you name it.
 

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Highlander_821 said:
I am a virtual pilot on MS Flight Simulator/VATSIM virtual air traffic network. I fly a BAE 146 jet between Glasgow, Scotland and Dublin, Ireland. VATSIM is incredibly cool, a worldwide virtual community of pilots and live ATC with voice, with many airports. Procedures are very close to "real world", with clearance delivery, ground control, tower, departure, instrument departures, precision instrument approaches, etc. You see the other aircraft (and can collide with them, lol.) Anyway, the site is www.vatsim.net, there are links to all kinds of info, terminal maps, charts, departure and arrival procedures, you name it.

Wow, I had no idea this existed! Sounds pretty cool. Checking the site out now.
 

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I have to agree that the vatsim.net concept is WAY cool. As a former ZLA controller I had lots of fun on there a year or so ago, until some of the ZLA brass turned it into a job, instead of a hobby with more regulations and requirements than the FAA.
 

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back to the original question. There is nothing on the ground to indicate an intersection. An intersection is where two federal airways intersect and is used for reporting points when you are reporting your location (when on a flight plan). Most GPS units show intersections.
I dont fly airways, I usually fly gps direct just because its faster. Shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Especially when your airplane is as slow as mine (107kts). If you fly airways vor to vor your flight can be up to 30% longer. Additionally, near a vor is a good place for a midair. The downside is that if you go down, nobody knows where to look.
Steve flying n6516r
 

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fivestarr said:
..... The downside is that if you go down, nobody knows where to look.
Steve flying n6516r

Sure they do, that's why we file a flight plan right? ;-)
 
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We have HAWKY north of Albany, which is a good reminder about one of the local "hazards" in the sky. :)
 
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