American Electric Power (AEP) P25 WACN 92715

[wx5uif]

I'll have to keep eye out on this. Site 1FA-19.19 is showing up on the Leonard frequencies now..




Preston shows Leonard 10.10 as isolated.


The 857.3625 channel:

 

[Remington12G]

I'll have to keep eye out on this. Site 1FA-19.19 is showing up on the Leonard frequencies now..

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Redacted. Figured it out. I am assuming this site switched SYS ID's

 

[nd5y]

Something new I haven't seen yet on this system.
Site 37 Comanche, OK has 5 talkgroups patched.
9004 is patched to 1000, 1001, 1002, 1003.
No activity in the past few minutes.

Band isn't very good today so I can't tell if any other sites around here are also doing it.

 

[mtindor]

I'll have to keep eye out on this. Site 1FA-19.19 is showing up on the Leonard frequencies now..

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Preston shows Leonard 10.10 as isolated.
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The 857.3625 channel:
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@wx5uif Can you check the sites you are able to monitor again and see if anything else has changed in the last week? The change of SYSID is baffling me, as I would have expected all of these sites to be Public Service Co of OK. If one is changing, I'm wondering if they will all eventually change. Hmm. Any additional sleuthing you can do would be appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[nd5y]

Something new I haven't seen yet on this system.
Site 37 Comanche, OK has 5 talkgroups patched.
9004 is patched to 1000, 1001, 1002, 1003.
No activity in the past few minutes.

Band isn't very good today so I can't tell if any other sites around here are also doing it.

Now I can decode Site 41 Frederick, OK. The same talkgroups are patched.

 

[west-pac]

Something new I haven't seen yet on this system.
Site 37 Comanche, OK has 5 talkgroups patched.
9004 is patched to 1000, 1001, 1002, 1003.
No activity in the past few minutes.

Band isn't very good today so I can't tell if any other sites around here are also doing it.

Same here in Indiana. Earlier this week those TGs were patched to TG9003, yesterday they were not, then today they're patched to TG9004. Those 1000 number TGs are IF5 I&M TGs.

 

[mtindor]

Those patches probably have to do with Ft Wayne being the [apparent] place where trouble is dispatched from when local offices aren't staffed. And local offices aren't often staffed with dispatch personnel when the weather isn't bad, or on weekends/holidays. Ft Wayne is often dispatching up here in Ohio. But, admittedly they are usually dispatching on the local trouble talkgroups around here. I just moved. I have no outside antennas and cannot even pick up the local AEP site. When I have an antenna back up in the air I'll see if we are seeing the same patching activity here in Ohio.

 

[gtaman]

Those patches probably have to do with Ft Wayne being the [apparent] place where trouble is dispatched from when local offices aren't staffed. And local offices aren't often staffed with dispatch personnel when the weather isn't bad, or on weekends/holidays. Ft Wayne is often dispatching up here in Ohio. But, admittedly they are usually dispatching on the local trouble talkgroups around here. I just moved. I have no outside antennas and cannot even pick up the local AEP site. When I have an antenna back up in the air I'll see if we are seeing the same patching activity here in Ohio.

I do know Columbus is dispatched out of Columbus. The dispatch center is the bunker building on S Hamilton road near the new data center. That office also contains customer service reps.

 

[wx5uif]

Here's a couple quick screenshots of what I can receive right now. Reception is crap at this time.

 

[west-pac]

Im more curious on why they would patch Indiana TGs to Oklahoma TGs.

 

[nd5y]

Im more curious on why they would patch Indiana TGs to Oklahoma TGs.

I don't know that any of those are Oklahoma specific talkgroup.
It could be for testing or training purposes or as posted earlier for after normal business hours dispatching from a central location.

 

[mtindor]

Here's a couple quick screenshots of what I can receive right now. Reception is crap at this time.

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Oh my. What a mess. Looks like they have changed at least two sites

1FA-19.19 Leonard ( was 1F9-10.10 )
1FA-9.9 Tulsa [more likely] or Grove ( was 1F9-7.7 )

1F9-7.7 was never confirmed for sure as far as it being Tulsa or Grove. But it has always been a neighbor of Leonard, and Tulsa makes more sense as a neighbor although we can't rule out Grove.

And 1F9-18.18 (neighbor of Sand Springs) is probably Bartlesville -- and either it hasn't come online yet, is temporarily offline, or also is changing to 1FA-##.##.

Sand Springs lists 1F9-27.27 as a neighbor with CC of 855.1375.. Previously 1F9-27.27 was a neighbor of one or more sites with a CC of 855.7625. I originally had calculated 1F9-27.27 as likely being Nowata or Hinton (both had 855.7625 on the license), but now with 1F9-27.27 having both 855.7625 and 855.1375 associated with it, it looks like 1F9-27.27 will be Jay OK.

Anyway, I can only wonder if the whole 1F9 is going to change to 1FA, or if just the top part of OK is going to change to 1FA.

Thanks for fetching the latest info!

 

[mtindor]

Here's a couple quick screenshots of what I can receive right now. Reception is crap at this time.

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I updated the Leonard site in the DB to be 1FA-19.19

 

[west-pac]

I don't know that any of those are Oklahoma specific talkgroup.
It could be for testing or training purposes or as posted earlier for after normal business hours dispatching from a central location.

The reason I say Oklahoma, is because 1F9 is Oklahoma, and it's showing those 4 Indiana TGs patched to TG9004 on an Oklahoma tower. Every system's (1F5, 1F6, 1F7, 1F8) TGs start with a different number 1000's being Indiana, and 9000's not being listed yet, but showing on an Oklahoma tower would lead me to believe TG9000's would possibly be Oklahoma.

 

[west-pac]

Anybody else getting that TG patch notice on 1F6, 1F7, 1F8?...I don't feel like they would, or should, receive that info, as none of those TGs are associated with those individual systems.

 

[nd5y]

The reason I say Oklahoma, is because 1F9 is Oklahoma, and it's showing those 4 Indiana TGs patched to TG9004 on an Oklahoma tower. Every system's (1F5, 1F6, 1F7, 1F8) TGs start with a different number 1000's being Indiana, and 9000's not being listed yet, but showing on an Oklahoma tower would lead me to believe TG9000's would possibly be Oklahoma.

Most of the TGs I have seen on the SW OK sites are 8000s

American Electric Power P25 - 1F9 - Public Service Company of Oklahoma Site Research - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[west-pac]

Most of the TGs I have seen on the SW OK sites are 8000s

American Electric Power P25 - 1F9 - Public Service Company of Oklahoma Site Research - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

Well there goes my theory..🤣🤣

 

[wx5uif]

I'd think 9.9 would more than likely be Grove, if it is on air. I don't see any CC with that displayed neighbor CC in the Tulsa area.

 

[b1tr41d]

And 1F9-18.18 (neighbor of Sand Springs) is probably Bartlesville -- and either it hasn't come online yet, is temporarily offline, or also is changing to 1FA-##.##.

It might be Pawhuska. Geographically (at least to me) it makes more sense.
Though I haven't seen any switch over to P25 from EDACS on either Pawhuska or Bartlesville.
Unless they are using new frequencies that I haven't found yet. Been watching both sites and the 800Mhz band for months now waiting for the change over but nothing yet.
Noticed on the Bartlesville site today a lot of data on the EDACS system flowing according to Unitrunker. Maybe they are using OTAP to program radios in the area. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Will keep listening.

 

[mtindor]

It might be Pawhuska. Geographically (at least to me) it makes more sense.
Though I haven't seen any switch over to P25 from EDACS on either Pawhuska or Bartlesville.
Unless they are using new frequencies that I haven't found yet. Been watching both sites and the 800Mhz band for months now waiting for the change over but nothing yet.
Noticed on the Bartlesville site today a lot of data on the EDACS system flowing according to Unitrunker. Maybe they are using OTAP to program radios in the area. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Will keep listening.

1F9-18.18, showing as a peer of Sand Springs, is not showing online right now per WX5UIF's screenshot. I suspect when it is showing online, you might hear something out of Bartlesville on whatever freq is the active CC. 855.5875 is what Sand Springs reports as the last CC for Site 1F9-18.18. 855.5875 is on the Bartlesville FCC license, not on the Pawhuska license. That's why I say it is likely Bartlesville.