Anytone Tech (aka Baofeng Tech) is deliberately misleading consumers.

[Voyager]

ND5Y: Why did you delete your post to the link that confirms you can use the same FCC TA for radios that have different model numbers?

(non-ND5Y subjects):
As for the Aussie registration, I will point to another company who most feel is not shady who did the same thing... GRE America. It's very common to use an aussie company for holding a domain. That's about as shady as getting a Chineese company to manufacture radios for you.

As for not being Anytone radios, are you saying that some company is using the Anytone name, logo and FCC TA without Anytone's knowledge or consent? That really is a bit far fetched - especially when you consider they are virtually clones of the Anytone radios.

As for one distributor not knowing about another, not sure what that proves.

 

[WyoDuner]

I'm wondering if we can just change the name of this thread to something like: "Proof of alien abductions, Bigfoot, Lochness Monster, 9/11 Conspiracy and who killed JFK".

Obviously 10 minutes of Googling something and any international conspiracy can be uncovered (or created apparently).

 

[nd5y]

ND5Y: Why did you delete your post to the link that confirms you can use the same FCC TA for radios that have different model numbers?

After I read it again I don't think it applies in this case.

 

[MTS2000des]

You can google good. Now find where it says you can have different FCC ID for the same unit with different types of type acceptance (90 and 95) and use both at the same time on the same radio.... hint you will not because you can not.

Which is the biggest indicator of these radios being misrepresented by "AnyTone Tech" and why I even care.

Maybe since "AnyTone Tech" or "Greg Wilson" will come on and show us a photo of one of his radios with what exactly is on the rear of the radios he is peddling on their FCC ID label.

(don't hold your breath for that)

 

[coolderb]

ND5Y: Why did you delete your post to the link that confirms you can use the same FCC TA for radios that have different model numbers?

(non-ND5Y subjects):
As for the Aussie registration, I will point to another company who most feel is not shady who did the same thing... GRE America. It's very common to use an aussie company for holding a domain. That's about as shady as getting a Chineese company to manufacture radios for you.

.

Very common practice:

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-domains/melbourne-sln18109.html


"Melbourne IT is Yahoo's domain name registration partner. All new domains registered through Yahoo are recorded and managed by Melbourne IT's ICANN-accredited domain registration group."

 

[gesucks]

This is not about brand names or address. This is about FCC type acceptance.

 

[Voyager]

If it's not about brands or names, why are people saying these aren't the same radios as the Anytone models (er... make that the first Anytone)

And if they are the same, the same FCC TA would apply. Hence, the two issues are directly related.

 

[MTS2000des]

And if they are the same, the same FCC TA would apply. Hence, the two issues are directly related.

And that is the issue, one radio cannot have both certifications according to the FCC. The FCC has been made aware of these radios and their marketing.

So, maybe when the person holding themselves out to be ANYTONETECH aka Greg Wilson who took the time to register on this forum and defend his product in another thread gets in here with an actual photograph of the product ID label showing BOTH FCC ID's we can get some answers.

Still waiting...

 

[Voyager]

That IS a separate issue, as the Anytone 3318 only has Part 90 certification - as would any other models using the same hardware.

ND5Y posted a FCC link that says the same ID can be used on any models that have different model numbers for marketing purposes. To me, that seems dead on the issue at hand (at least one of the issues).

 

[toastycookies]

Here is a question.
I am not sure if it is a valid one, but I will post it anyways since I can

Why do not they have all type acceptances in a single FCC ID like these ones from Kenwood?

 

[MTS2000des]

Why do not they have all type acceptances in a single FCC ID like these ones from Kenwood?

My guess is because the FCC would have kicked them out, to get a MURS certification, the radio cannot be reprogrammed to operate on anything but pre-programmed MURS frequencies, nor at a power level over 2 watts.

By submitting two SEPARATE certifications for the essentially the same product, the applicant thinks they are smarter than the FCC.

Problem is, those certifications are meaningless if they both aren't on the product or they are fraudulent.

Rest assured the FCC is aware of what happened.

 

[jonwienke]

Anytone Tech is a distributor selling Anytone radios, not a separate manufacturer.

 

[toastycookies]

My guess is because the FCC would have kicked them out, to get a MURS certification, the radio cannot be reprogrammed to operate on anything but pre-programmed MURS frequencies, nor at a power level over 2 watts.

Why then would the FCC approve this?
Very fishy indeed...

http://i.imgur.com/mtedZms.png
http://i.imgur.com/xF4EFB5.png


http://i.imgur.com/awJZPzO.png

 

[MTS2000des]

Why then would the FCC approve this?
Very fishy indeed...

That is what I want to know.

From the response I got at the OET, so do they.

I'm still waiting for someone to post their FCC product ID label showing BOTH certification numbers for part 90 and 95 like their user manual and website imply are valid...Bueller? Anyone? Bueller? Because everything I've seen from the FCC ID numbers says differently.

 

[MTS2000des]

and according to 95.649, no MURS transmitter can be made to be capable of exceeding the power output limit of 2 watts:

§95.649 Power capability.

No CB, R/C, LPRS, FRS, MedRadio, MURS, or WMTS unit shall incorporate provisions for increasing its transmitter power to any level in excess of the limits specified in §95.639.


So...according to the specifications published on:
https://anytonetech.com/TERMN-8R


Power output is listed as:
Output power:
5W / 2W / 1W (Max 6W)



Another load of feces pieces...

 

[Voyager]

Unless they restrict the power via firmware on the MURS channels...

I also read that the MURS channels are pre-programmed, so the above is entirely likely.

 

[n5ims]

and according to 95.649, no MURS transmitter can be made to be capable of exceeding the power output limit of 2 watts:

§95.649 Power capability.

No CB, R/C, LPRS, FRS, MedRadio, MURS, or WMTS unit shall incorporate provisions for increasing its transmitter power to any level in excess of the limits specified in §95.639.


So...according to the specifications published on:
https://anytonetech.com/TERMN-8R


Power output is listed as:
Output power:
5W / 2W / 1W (Max 6W)



Another load of feces pieces...

Why didn't you mention the other specifications, such as:

Pre-Programmed Modes:

5 MURS Channels
7 NOAA Weather Channels
23 GMRS Channels

And according to the manual (also from your link above) the radio has three separate modes, Normal, GMRS, and MURS. To switch modes, you must hold the [PF2] key while turning on the radio and press a key code to select the desired mode. They also indicate that you won't be able to modify many of the settings in the GMRS and MURS modes (although you can set/change PL tones).

I know that this is in stark contract to your outrage, but perhaps these modes are programmed in strict adherence to the FCC rules for these services and since they can't be modified, the rules you quoted are indeed being followed. It's also possible that since the radio knows about the GMRS and MURS rules, it prevents them from being accessed in Normal mode, where it would be quite easy to program the radio to violate these rules (unlike many other Chinese, Japanese, and other radios that aren't certified for Part-95).

 

[Voyager]

Kinda precludes being able to scan a MURS channel, a GMRS channel, and a FD channel. Of course, I guess you could always program the channels in the main memory RX only and still be in compliance since you're not transmitting (only Part 15 would apply then, and Part 15 compliance is included in Part 90 TA)

 

[danieldad]

..... yeah, ok; -if you're unhappy with the damn radios, feel it's a fraudulent practice, etc., then DON'T buy them - contact the FTC & let them know that the FCC's involved in an international conspiracy, write your congressman, & go do the dishes like your wife asked you to. .... I'm sure that, - somewhere down the line, it'll end up going to HSI, ( - & with my luck, it'll probably be something that gets put on my case load; -thanks, in advance. )
I, myself, am going to grab a cup of coffee, catch up on the news, & then head into work, where I'll be issued my Harris (FCC type approved) radio after roll call, and I'll be able to talk to just about anyone on almost any PSB frequency who's awake at this hour - ( ..... except for the comm sta. net that we're primarily "supposed" to work on - - -Thank God, at least I'll be able to reach someone at the NPS/FPS, who will actually respond, & get me some help, should I need it !!!!).
--- Hey, get those dishes done ! -- & this time, rinse the soap off them, ok?

 

[MTS2000des]

It's also possible that since the radio knows about the GMRS and MURS rules, it prevents them from being accessed in Normal mode, where it would be quite easy to program the radio to violate these rules (unlike many other Chinese, Japanese, and other radios that aren't certified for Part-95).

I don't know, does the manual state that? Can we hear from someone who actually OWNS one to tell us?

Better yet, Mr. Wilson where are you? You were quick to pop up and assure us that yes, you're really in the good ol' USA in the wide open spaces of South Dakota, despite the folks I talked to in the town you claimed "were familiar" with you and your company.

And as a sidenote to those who aren't interested in this thread, please UNSUBSCRIBE now, remember than participation in forums is optional.

If it bothers you so much, then go watch the re-runs of Alaska State Troopers on NatGeo. There is a trooper who's XTS5000 isn't working, maybe he needs to order one of those AnyTone's...