Apco Phase 2

[ShawnCowden]

do u all think these new radios will support the new phases of apco coming out ? If not 500 dollars would be alot to just throw away within a few yrs

 

[BaLa]

isn't APCO Phase 2 supposed to be using CDMA or something?

<edit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_25

TDMA and FDMA

 

[N_Jay]

isn't APCO Phase 2 supposed to be using CDMA or something?

No.

It is TDMA. Two slots on 12.5 kHz channel,

 

[ShawnCowden]

so dat means its useless buying these new scanners ??

 

[Stick0413]

I wouldn't say so. Personally I don't see them going to Phase 2 for years to come.

 

[N_Jay]

I wouldn't say so. Personally I don't see them going to Phase 2 for years to come.

"Them" who?

 

[Grog]

"Them" who?

Duh, "Them" them :roll:

 

[Stick0413]

"Them" who?

Them as in public safety radio systems.

 

[n2mdk]

"Them" you know those giant ants. Great Tx and Rx with those antennae of theirs.

 

[N_Jay]

Duh, "Them" them :roll:

Well "some" of "them" will go to Phase 2 as soon as equipment is available, and "some others" of "them" will never go.

 

[wolverine]

I think for the most part, unless It's a firmware upgrade for the radio's which It wont be, alot of the departments that have just made the switch over to digital in the past two or three years will not switch over to phase 2 for along time. Departments link say the Clermont county, OH trs might switch over but I dont even see them making swith for along time.

However, It is gonna happen, I just hope there able to firmware upgrade are scanners so we dont have to buy new one's.

 

[Viper43]

Well "some" of "them" will go to Phase 2 as soon as equipment is available, and "some others" of "them" will never go.

Well apparently there is equipment out there as Indy's new system will be Phase 2

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[WayneH]

Well apparently there is equipment out there as Indy's new system will be Phase 2

There's a lot of equipment out there that will support being upgraded but as of now nothing is using the format.

The question is a bit early I think. Generally every couple of years technology changes. Phase 2 just happens to be one of the new changes.

 

[N_Jay]

Well apparently there is equipment out there as Indy's new system will be Phase 2

V

On the edge, but not out there yet.

 

[N4DXX]

do u all think these new radios will support the new phases of apco coming out ? If not 500 dollars would be alot to just throw away within a few yrs

I say it costs 500.00 for a scanner that will decode p25 phase one...May cost 1,000 to decode phase 2...This S#!^ is never ending alway's trying to improve this junk to convince other's that it's gonna be so much better to make that almighty dollar..

 

[N_Jay]

I say it costs 500.00 for a scanner that will decode p25 phase one...May cost 1,000 to decode phase 2...

Hu??

It is not significantly different hardware or licensing, so it should be about the same as today's P25 scanners.

 

[N4DXX]

Hu??

It is not significantly different hardware or licensing, so it should be about the same as today's P25 scanners.

The fact is the scanners you are spending your money on today will eventually become a brick..If they go to phase 2..So you pay 500 for your new gre today when phase 2 hits the market if you want to hear it you will need an updated scanner will cost you another 500 so you have spent a grand total of 1,000..

 

[W4KRR]

The fact is the scanners you are spending your money on today will eventually become a brick..If they go to phase 2..So you pay 500 for your new gre today when phase 2 hits the market if you want to hear it you will need an updated scanner will cost you another 500 so you have spent a grand total of 1,000..

So using that logic, we should never buy any scanner, because no matter what scanner we buy, it will be outdated someday.

I have a 30 year old Bearcat 101 scanner sitting here. Is it outdated? Well, I can't get my local police on it, but it's still good for railroads, VHF marine, local businesses, tow trucks, 2 meter and 440 MHz ham radio repeaters, so is it outdated or not? There will always be something new and better coming along, so what exactly should we be waiting for? When is the right time to buy?

 

[kikito]

The fact is the scanners you are spending your money on today will eventually become a brick..If they go to phase 2..So you pay 500 for your new gre today when phase 2 hits the market if you want to hear it you will need an updated scanner will cost you another 500 so you have spent a grand total of 1,000..

I'm sure it would've been nice if communications had stay in the AM band for the past century. With no advancements in technology or anything else for that matter. The world would be such a simple and cheap place to live... :roll:

Maybe you need to find another hobby if it's so frustrating and you can't or don't want to afford it.

 

[lowboy654]

So using that logic, we should never buy any scanner, because no matter what scanner we buy, it will be outdated someday.

I have a 30 year old Bearcat 101 scanner sitting here. Is it outdated? Well, I can't get my local police on it, but it's still good for railroads, VHF marine, local businesses, tow trucks, 2 meter and 440 MHz ham radio repeaters, so is it outdated or not? There will always be something new and better coming along, so what exactly should we be waiting for? When is the right time to buy?

I am with you on this I have one of my dads old scanners that is almost forty years old and it has a Cristal set in it and it still works for the fire dept where my dad lived I bring it alnog when I go home and my brothers and my sisters get a real kick out of listening to this reciver that would just piss off my Mom she would yell at the old Man to turn that thing down, now days she just sets and listens with a smile on face when we plug that old thing in. now my better half cant stand all of the radio stuff that I have going on here from ham radios and more scanners then I have fingers some old some new they all have a place and work.