Hello, I’m new to scanner radio and have a question. I live in North Central Arkansas. And my county’s PD will suddenly switch to encrypted traffic and once they’re done talking about whatever they don’t want heard they turn it back off. The traffic sounds really robotic and you can almost make bits and pieces of what they’re saying out but not enough to know what they’re saying.. Can anyone tell me what this is and if there is any way around it? Thanks!
Arkansas Police Scanner help for a newbie! Please!
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It would help to know what model scanner you have and a link to the agency from the database:
RRDB | Arkansas Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Arkansas (AR)
www.radioreference.com
It's not encryption, it's "voice inversion" scrambling. Google the quoted phrase and you'll learn more about what it is.
It would help to know what model scanner you have and a link to the agency from the database:
RRDB | Arkansas Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Arkansas (AR)www.radioreference.com
It really wouldn't. No scanner can unscramble VI and his description points to VI.
Making statements like that looks foolish. I know of 3 using it daily...
If desired, one could. It's simple VI.
My scanner is a Uniden BCD436HP and I have an old Radio Shack scanner(forgot the model) but both do the same..It would help to know what model scanner you have and a link to the agency from the database:
RRDB | Arkansas Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Arkansas (AR)www.radioreference.com
I don’t know.. my county is still using the old style(don’t know the name lol) radio and not digital. I know most have already switched to digital..
Jon, sorry but you are way wrong here. It is very much still in use in multiple formats. A few agencies have recently upgraded to DMR, NXDN, or have gone to AWIN and run true digital encryption, but oh yeah there are still several agencies running VI "encryption". This includes a couple of agencies on LTR systems! And its not just in the SE USA, aka "redneckville", there is VI still in use on Public Safety systems across the nation. Its a Hell of a lot cheaper than even a DMR or NXDN system to still run analog if you can. Not to mention that until the final migration last year of TSA to full P25 use, they ran VI on the contractors radios on analog. Now though, all TSA radios should be full P25, and almost all using encryption full time.
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Yes, but now you violate ECPA if you do so.
Analog is the word your looking for , and yes its still very much in use and will be until the FCC finally gets paid off enough to finally force the next level of narrowbanding through. Once that happens, there is ONLY digital from then on for VHF High, UHF, and on up. Which County, and Municipality are you monitoring?
That's debatable and has been debated quite a bit. General consensus is VI is not encryption, best I remember. There are some threads about it here on the RR forums somewhere.
Lol I wouldn't want to debate it with a jury in a courtroom lol. Can you afford a dream team lawyer?
As I said, it's been debated quite a bit and what I read says VI is clearly not E so is n/a. Check the other threads if you want to discuss it. UPman said it clearly in this post, linked here: Breaking encryptioni
Ok, thanks. I was kind of hoping to keep the county anonymous. You are the admin over the county tho. I started to come to you directly, but I didn’t know how you are affiliated and I didn’t want it to get back that someone was listening in lol.
It's not illegal to monitor. It's only illegal to use that info to aid in criminal activity. Or if they were using real encryption to intentionally monitor and try to break the encryption. This isn't like Korea or China or some places in Europe where it is illegal to even try to monitor the government.
I agree with you here...but, of course, you said above that listening to it (scrambled VI is what was being talked about) violated ECPA, etc.. That's what I was referring to.
In many places it's illegal to use a scanner in conjunction with criminal activity. There was an arrest recently locally where the two guys had a scanner (which was dubbed a "law enforcement communications monitoring device" or something similar) and charges were included. Not illegal to own, just illegal to have if being used when committing a crime in this state.
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Monitoring public safety is not illegal in Arkansas. Monitoring VI is not illegal. Descrambling has not been tested in court and I can't afford legal team to try it no matter what Up man says as this has not met a legal battle in actual court or Congressional forum. The OP is scared to even mention where he is monitoring like it's Korea and Imma fly over in black helo and cap his booty. Can we get back on track here.
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