Austin TX P25 Pro96Comm info

[blantonl]

Well, this morning at about 6:00 AM the Austin Travis County simulcast sites came in loud and clear into San Antonio. Here are the Pro96Com Dumps for Sites 1 and 2

System ID             : 13e
System Name           : 
WACN                  : bee09
Tower Number (Decimal): 101
Tower Number (Hex)    : T0101
Tower Description     : (null)
Control Capabilities  : Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s)          : Unknown

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth
0,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,Confirmed,0.00625
1,762.00625,0.00625,30.30000,Confirmed,0.00625
2,151.47500,0.00500,-5.81250,Confirmed,0.01250
3,150.99500,0.00500,-13.00000,Confirmed,0.01250
4,151.22000,0.00500,-20.23750,Confirmed,0.01250

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency
0-979,a,866.16250
0-98d,c,866.28750
0-9a1,a,866.41250
0-9b9,a,866.56250
0-9d1,v,866.71250
0-9e1,v,866.81250
0-9f3,v,866.92500
0-a0d,v,867.08750
0-a11,v,867.11250
0-a35,v,867.33750
0-a5f,v,867.60000
0-a83,v,867.82500
0-aaf,v,868.10000
0-ab3,v,868.12500
0-ad9,v,868.36250
0-ae3,v,868.42500
0-b03,v,868.62500
0-b37,v,868.95000

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,Channel,Frequency
105,T0105,0-ac3,868.22500
104,T0104,0-a73,867.72500
102,T0102,0-975,866.13750
106,T0106,0-a93,867.92500
103,T0103,0-a7f,867.80000
108,T0108,0-a07,867.05000
107,T0107,0-9f7,866.95000

Site 2

System ID             : 13e
System Name           : 
WACN                  : bee09
Tower Number (Decimal): 102
Tower Number (Hex)    : T0102
Tower Description     : (null)
Control Capabilities  : Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s)          : Unknown

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth
0,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,Confirmed,0.00625
1,762.00625,0.00625,30.30000,Confirmed,0.00625
2,151.47500,0.00500,-5.81250,Confirmed,0.01250
3,150.99500,0.00500,-13.00000,Confirmed,0.01250
4,151.22000,0.00500,-20.23750,Confirmed,0.01250

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency
0-975,c,866.13750
0-991,a,866.31250
0-99d,a,866.38750
0-9bd,a,866.58750
0-9d5,v,866.73750
0-9e5,v,866.83750
0-a19,v,867.16250
0-a1d,v,867.18750
0-a41,v,867.41250
0-a6d,v,867.68750
0-a97,v,867.95000
0-aa7,v,868.05000
0-acb,v,868.27500
0-ad3,v,868.32500
0-af7,v,868.55000
0-afb,v,868.57500
0-b27,v,868.85000

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,Channel,Frequency
105,T0105,0-ac3,868.22500
104,T0104,0-a73,867.72500
106,T0106,0-a93,867.92500
107,T0107,0-9f7,866.95000
101,T0101,0-98d,866.28750
108,T0108,0-a07,867.05000
103,T0103,0-a7f,867.80000

 

[kikito]

I wonder why they have those VHF Tables in the system?

 

[blantonl]

they activated a VHF test site a while back to demo the VHF interoperability with the state (on VHF, to go P25 soon). I don't think it is on the air now however.

-Lb

 

[bsmotril]

Is there anyway to get these types of system dumps from a BC296?
BillS

 

[mikey60]

Is there anyway to get these types of system dumps from a BC296?
BillS

Nope, not at the moment.

Mike

 

[rbarker]

Pro96Com Dumps for Sites 1 and 2

That is some great info to work with here in Austin. Should we now go in and update the #Format of the tower with what's listed here on the site.. since I noticed they are a bit out of order. Also the frequencies listed in the dump, Is that info from the data channel, meaning that is all the active frequencies for that site or just ones that had hits.. Since there does seem to be more listed on the site than was is posted above.
I was thinking here were more related towers.. perhaps not.

 

[mikey60]

Re: Pro96Com Dumps for Sites 1 and 2

That is some great info to work with here in Austin. Should we now go in and update the #Format of the tower with what's listed here on the site.. since I noticed they are a bit out of order. Also the frequencies listed in the dump, Is that info from the data channel, meaning that is all the active frequencies for that site or just ones that had hits.. Since there does seem to be more listed on the site than was is posted above.
I was thinking here were more related towers.. perhaps not.

The frequencies listed are only those that had hits while the program was running. The control channel doesn't advertise any frequencies other than the control channel and alternate control channels until one is placed in use.

Later versions of Pro96Com sort the frequencies by identifier/channel...

Mike

 

[mbai18005]

A newbie question about win96 and above info...

This is great information...thank you. But being a newbie, I have a question...

I have the Win96 software and a Pro-96. How do i go about putting this information into the scanner so it works. I am guessing I use the Mot 9600 CC Multi Table entries, but what data goes where? If I try to put the Input offset into the table it doesnt take it....can anyone help???

what I entered was this...

Table 00, Channel low 0, Channel high 65535, Base 851.00625, Offset 0*, Spacing 6.25

* When I tried to do the -45.000 it reset itself to 0.

Also, do I need to enter the 762.00625 into table 1 and the vhf into into the other tables??? What about entering site 2 as well?

I know this is probably a very stupid question, but I appreciate any help...

Thanks
Mike

Thanks
Mike

 

[mbai18005]

A newbie question about win96 and above info...

This is great information...thank you. But being a newbie, I have a question...

I have the Win96 software and a Pro-96. How do i go about putting this information into the scanner so it works. I am guessing I use the Mot 9600 CC Multi Table entries, but what data goes where? If I try to put the Input offset into the table it doesnt take it....can anyone help???

what I entered was this...

Table 00, Channel low 0, Channel high 65535, Base 851.00625, Offset 0*, Spacing 6.25

* When I tried to do the -45.000 it reset itself to 0.

Also, do I need to enter the 762.00625 into table 1 and the vhf into into the other tables??? What about entering site 2 as well?

I know this is probably a very stupid question, but I appreciate any help...

Thanks
Mike

Thanks
Mike

 

[mbai18005]

Newbie help...more info

In another thread I found where someone had translated older information into a custom multi table. Has anyone done that yet with this new information. I put the other multi table in and it seems to work better...but still has issues. I noticed that the only "800" mhz frequency was the 851.00625, but it had vhf frequencies in it...and the new info had a 700mhz frequency...

Thank you again for the help!

Mike

 

[rbarker]

Win96 Software configured for Austin, TX

I have no idea what you are talking about, but it sounds like you are way too far into it. First of all., if you have Win 96 and can give me your email address, I can send you a data file that will work and you can load it into the Win96 software and then all you have to do is program the scanner and your are done. I don't have a Pro96 but I do have the data file. I also have one for the BC296D if someone has that radio.

Basically in the Win96 software under the 2nd TAB where is says Channels. That is where you choose the bank you want to use, so you may want to have Simulcast 1 in bank 1 and Simulcast 2 in bank 2, and then enter the frequencies and then the talkgroups on the right. For the type pulldown, make sure it says MOT (for Motorola), For MOT 3600 CC and for MOT 9600 CC both are set to Normal. that's it.. no multi tables .. not for Austin..

 

[FPO703]

Did anyone adjust the rr.com DB to reflect the information obtained from the PRO96COM information shared earlier?

 

[kikito]

Re: A newbie question about win96 and above info...

I have the Win96 software and a Pro-96. How do i go about putting this information into the scanner so it works. I am guessing I use the Mot 9600 CC Multi Table entries, but what data goes where? If I try to put the Input offset into the table it doesnt take it....can anyone help???

what I entered was this...

Table 00, Channel low 0, Channel high 65535, Base 851.00625, Offset 0*, Spacing 6.25

For 800MHz systems, the scanner does the work automatically, you do not need to enter ANYTHING. Just leave the Pro-96 on " 9600 Normal" mode. You only need to worry about Tables in VHF and UHF systems.

 

[mbai18005]

So then why does the reception stink? I added the table information that I found in another thread and reception is much better than without...on about 80% of the transmissions. I even tried an experiment and went back with out the tables and got just what i had before. As soon as I add the table info, things improve.

Do i need to have both sets of simulcast frequencies in the scanner...

Mike

 

[SCPD]

Hi mike;

So then why does the reception stink?

You'll have to be more specific. Does "stink" mean poor reception, poor audio quality, or reduced activity (ie. missing talkgroups) ?

I added the table information that I found in another thread and reception is much better than without...on about 80% of the transmissions.

I'm guessing this is a case of "less is more". Pick the site closest to you and try to scan only that site. Lockout or remove the CCs for the other sites from the bank. The radio may be trying to scan a more distant site with relatively poor reception due to the greater distance.

I even tried an experiment and went back with out the tables and got just what i had before. As soon as I add the table info, things improve.

The tables listed at the top of this thread are called "Identifier Updates" - these are broadcast over the control channel. As far as I know, only Identifier 0 - which is the standard 800 mhz band plan - is actually used. I'm not aware of anyone actually logging confirmed activity on any of the other identifiers. These other identifiers are either (1) artifacts of a default installation that the system manager has neglected to clean up or (2) represent future expansion and/or interoperability that is probably year(s) away from actual use.

Personally, I've monitoring plenty of traffic on sites 1 and 4. The audio quality is decent once you become accustomed to the sound of IMBE.

-rick

 

[kikito]

I even tried an experiment and went back with out the tables and got just what i had before. As soon as I add the table info, things improve.

Mike

When you took out the Tables, did you also set it back to 'Normal' mode?

 

[mbai18005]

Rick..

Sorry about that...stink as in not anywhere near as clear as Williamson County on the same scanner. The top end of the audio sounds clipped and kinda squeaky. On some of the "talk groups" I can hear the transmission echoed after the speaker unkeys.

I guess I dont understand how this systems works. I was expecting it to work like the old Motorola trunked system. Please explain what you mean by monitoring sites...dont you just plug all the frequencies in and let it scan? I know that sounds like a dumb question, but apparently I am doing it wrong . I live north but work south...

Also what do you mean by "getting used to the sound of IMBE"? Is that what I am hearing?

Thanks to all for your help.

Mike

 

[rbarker]

No multi tables needed

I think there is some confusion here. To monitor the Austin and the Williamson County System, all you have to do is put in the frequencies and the talkgroups and set the 2 settings to normal. You do not have to do anything with Multi-tables and channel low and channel high. If you are using a Pro96, then there is an upgrade that has to be done to monitor the enhanced digital that Austin has.

I am confused as to what you are trying to do. They might have had some VHF frequencies on their control channel but that was probably just for testing only. They are NOT doing anything with VHF or UHF trunking. The Austin Digital system is hard to pick up and, if you use a BC296D you may need to do the sound adjustment from time to time. I also recommend the Radio Shack antenna that has the orange 800 Mhz on the side of it. You mentioned about monitoring sites 1 and 4.. what is site 4?

The way Austin was supposed to be set up was that the Simulcast 1 towers were supposed to be in the city and the Simulcast 2 towers were supposed to be out in the county. If you are using a base scanner, then you probabaly don't need to monitor both. You can find out which one you receive the best and just listen to that one. If you are using a portable or moving around a lot, then you probably need to scan both Simulcast 1 and 2 to be sure you are getting the best reception. I have data files for both the BC296D and the Pro96 for Austin if anyone wants to see how I set it up.

Also today, Nov 2nd is the day they are cutting many of the patches to UHF and VHF so I'm sure there will be a lot more people suddenly wanting to get on board with digital. Anyway I hope that clears things up.

 

[mbai18005]

I have the update...the scanner had it already when I purchased it (Friday).

Robert...you were kind enough to send me the file and I have loaded it. What I am still hearing (and this is using your file) is some of the audio is clipped on the top end and very "squeaky". I went last night and bought the 800mhz antenna and that seems to make it a bit better...but still not as clear as Williamson County.

I know it cant be this hard...

 

[kikito]

Maybe the Admins of this site should put a "footnote" on the RR Database for the systems that use CQPSK. Something along the lines of: "This type of system (CQPSK) may or may not be possible to be monitored properly with the currently available scanners".

That way, it will avoid all the confusion and "tail chasing" everytime a newbie tries to monitor one and thinks they're doing something wrong because they can't hear it correctly.

We just went through this a few weeks ago on the Yahoo groups....