Barberton Ohio?

[planegenius]

Does anyone know the Barberton Ohio police and fire frequencies? I just bought a Radio Shack pro 91 and I programmed in all the trunked frequencies that are currently on radio reference but they don't seem to be working. Have they been changed?

 

[jsoltis]

Barberton Frequencies

I have been having a problem receiving Barberton since sometime yesterday (today is 10/17/12). Until yesterday I have not had a problem but now it is silent on all frequencies.

If they have changed their system I didn't see an announcement of it. Perhaps they are having a system problem.

If anyone gets more information please post here.

 

[MotorolaDave]

I have been having a problem receiving Barberton since sometime yesterday (today is 10/17/12). Until yesterday I have not had a problem but now it is silent on all frequencies.

If they have changed their system I didn't see an announcement of it. Perhaps they are having a system problem.

If anyone gets more information please post here.

Barberton has apparently rebanded. They have also upgraded the power of their system which is great. All TG's have stayed the same, as well as the system ID and connect tone. Here are the new frequencies and a link to the FCC website. Just delete the old frequencies and add the new ones.

853.8500
851.7750
852.4500 (current control channel)
853.2875

 

[Richardmassaro29]

new channels

Barberton has apparently rebanded. They have also upgraded the power of their system which is great. All TG's have stayed the same, as well as the system ID and connect tone. Here are the new frequencies and a link to the FCC website. Just delete the old frequencies and add the new ones.

853.8500
851.7750
852.4500 (current control channel)
853.2875

((( I added all these new ones and i still cant hear anything any suggestons ))))

 

[jsoltis]

Thanks...anymore info?

Barberton has apparently rebanded. They have also upgraded the power of their system which is great. All TG's have stayed the same, as well as the system ID and connect tone. Here are the new frequencies and a link to the FCC website. Just delete the old frequencies and add the new ones.

853.8500
851.7750
852.4500 (current control channel)
853.2875

Thanks Dave, Now I just have to read my manual to remember how to reprogram frequencies in an existing TGRP.

The current database here currently lists the old control channels (3) for the different services (svc., fire and police) and my "PRO-197" also came pgm'd with subfrequencies.

1. Will the database be updated soon.
2. I don't see the FCC link....but my eyes are old...so...
3. Do you have the other new control control and subfrequencies?

 

[jsoltis]

re: Barberton

Make sure you pgm. these as a talk group (tgrp) and as a trunking system (TSYS) according to the manual directions.

 

[jsoltis]

Barberton has apparently rebanded. They have also upgraded the power of their system which is great. All TG's have stayed the same, as well as the system ID and connect tone. Here are the new frequencies and a link to the FCC website. Just delete the old frequencies and add the new ones.

853.8500
851.7750
852.4500 (current control channel)
853.2875

Sorry about the multiple replies but I remembered a bit of info I forgot to add to my previous post.

Just as an FYI, Barberton and Norton (and I think Copley) are currently negotiating to combine their dispatch operations and upgrade all equipment. I don't know if this is a part of that process or simply a routine upgrade of their system but it is possible more changes are in the works for this region. As part of the upgrade they will be going digital voice.

To the other poster in this thread, it is possible that the frequency change also included an upgrade to digital voice (Dave, any word on that?). Did you buy a digital or analog scanner? If it is analog you should return it for a digital (I know..$$$$) but even if it isn't analog now it may soon go that way and you'll own an expensive paper wright.

 

[jsoltis]

just repgm'd my pro-197 and heard one dispatch so it appears to be working but
i don't know if the voice is digital or analog.

 

[KWs]

FYI - Barberton is in process of moving to P25 (in cooperation with New Franklin) .. but I'm not sure if this current issue is related. I didn't think they were that close to the move yet. I cannot monitor this system from home in Kent to help out in listening. (the new Barberton P25 system will merge with Akron / Summit when they upgrade to P25).

 

[MotorolaDave]

Barberton has apparently rebanded. They have also upgraded the power of their system which is great. All TG's have stayed the same, as well as the system ID and connect tone. Here are the new frequencies and a link to the FCC website. Just delete the old frequencies and add the new ones.

853.8500
851.7750
852.4500 (current control channel)
853.2875

((( I added all these new ones and i still cant hear anything any suggestons ))))

I just turned my scanner on and I am hearing Barberton just fine. They are still using 852.4500 as the CC. Check the frequencies again and verify that you have your scanner set up as an 800/900 system, and not P25.

Here is the link to the FCC license for Barberton.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applFreqSum.jsp?applID=7128894

 

[jsoltis]

FYI - Barberton is in process of moving to P25 (in cooperation with New Franklin) .. but I'm not sure if this current issue is related. I didn't think they were that close to the move yet. I cannot monitor this system from home in Kent to help out in listening. (the new Barberton P25 system will merge with Akron / Summit when they upgrade to P25).

Thanks for the FYI. As of this AM it still still working on the new frequencies in MOT 800/900 mode as pgm'd in my PRO-197.

I knew about the merge of dispatch centers with Norton but was not aware of the move to P25 and I also thought it was still in the negotiating mode as well as still waiting on grant money for the equipment upgrades. If I can get to the next Council meeting I'll try to get an update.

 

[MotorolaDave]

FYI - Barberton is in process of moving to P25 (in cooperation with New Franklin) .. but I'm not sure if this current issue is related. I didn't think they were that close to the move yet. I cannot monitor this system from home in Kent to help out in listening. (the new Barberton P25 system will merge with Akron / Summit when they upgrade to P25).

I can't wait for this to happen, but yes, it is still a ways off. Once the Akron/Summit goes P25, they are also supposed to merge with Bath again.

I was never able to monitor Barberton from where I live in Cuyahoga Falls. After seeing this thread I checked the FCC site. I saw the new control channels, and also noticed a power upgrade for this system. That is when I programmed the new frequencies in, and I'm able to hear everything just fine.

 

[Richardmassaro29]

FYI - Barberton is in process of moving to P25 (in cooperation with New Franklin) .. but I'm not sure if this current issue is related. I didn't think they were that close to the move yet. I cannot monitor this system from home in Kent to help out in listening. (the new Barberton P25 system will merge with Akron / Summit when they upgrade to P25).

i dont understand unless i didnt program right, all did was replace your feq with the ones i got from radioreference. i can see scanner glitching when dipsatch is trying to talk,sorry i dont now what you mean by p25, IS THIS RIGHT im so confused

853.2875 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

853.8500 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

851.7750 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

852.4500 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

 

[MotorolaDave]

i dont understand unless i didnt program right, all did was replace your feq with the ones i got from radioreference. i can see scanner glitching when dipsatch is trying to talk,sorry i dont now what you mean by p25, IS THIS RIGHT im so confused

853.2875 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

853.8500 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

851.7750 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

852.4500 Barberton / Moto MOT Search

Those are the correct frequencies. I am hearing both the dispatcher and all police and fire units. The P25 is a different type of system. Barberton has not switched to it as of yet. They still use and 800mhz analog system. I was just advising you to make sure your scanner was NOT set to P25 mode. What scanner do you have? I use a PRO-106, and for this type of system I have it set to Mot 800/900. Each scanner may call it something slightly different.

 

[Richardmassaro29]

Those are the correct frequencies. I am hearing both the dispatcher and all police and fire units. The P25 is a different type of system. Barberton has not switched to it as of yet. They still use and 800mhz analog system. I was just advising you to make sure your scanner was NOT set to P25 mode. What scanner do you have? I use a PRO-106, and for this type of system I have it set to Mot 800/900. Each scanner may call it something slightly different.

i have a pro164 , iam really new at this sorry.DAVE if it would make it easy you can call me 3307153820 name is richard

 

[radioscan]

You probably need to go into the software, chose 'Trunking Tables' and then select "800 MHz Rebanded" from the drop down menu.

 

[Richardmassaro29]

You probably need to go into the software, chose 'Trunking Tables' and then select "800 MHz Rebanded" from the drop down menu.

i found what your talking about trunk settings and theres box saying custom/rebanded i clicked that but nothing changed i see dispatch freq but theres something not right, i can see the freq 862.7265 when this glitch is happening i dont have that programmed in i have to be missing something

 

[planegenius]

Thanks for the new frequencies!

I am brand new to scanning and this is my first scanner. I think I understand how to program a Radio Shack Pro 91 that I bought. It does support trunking and I put all the frequencies in, but right now I'm not hearing anything. Hopefully it is just because of low activity, but I have to ask is there any reason why my older pro 91 scanner should not work?

Thanks guys!

 

[MotorolaDave]

Thanks for the new frequencies!

I am brand new to scanning and this is my first scanner. I think I understand how to program a Radio Shack Pro 91 that I bought. It does support trunking and I put all the frequencies in, but right now I'm not hearing anything. Hopefully it is just because of low activity, but I have to ask is there any reason why my older pro 91 scanner should not work?

Thanks guys!

As you can see by the links I have listed, the Pro-91 cannot handle rebanded frequencies. You could get a newer analog scanner, but it will be outdated within a year or less. Spend the money if you can and get a digital scanner that will last you for years to come.

Rebanding - The RadioReference Wiki

Pro-91 - The RadioReference Wiki

 

[jsoltis]

Good news bad news

From reading a bit about rebanding on Mot systems the scanners may not calculate the trunked frequencies correctly from the control channel data after the new frequencies are pgm'd in unless you upgrade the firmware which I will do on my pro-197 2morrow. On my radio I noticed I was getting some hits without ant audio. The radio detected a signal was there but didn't go to the proper offset (at least that is my guess based on what I read tonight).

Bad news for the owner of the pro-91 is that it appears to not be compatible after the rebanding has completed.

There is a good article on the rebanding process on this site. It contains a list of radios that won't work and which will need firmware upgrades.