BCD436HP/BCD536HP: BCD436HP - The Sensitivity "test" (it had to come out eventually..)

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I had 2 436HP's and I noticed a lack of VHF sensitivity in both scanners.
If you're still on the fence and want Phase 2 with good VHF reception I would go with the Whistler WS1080. The Pro-668 is another great Phase 2 scanner and you can find them for about $260.00.

The phase 2 systems It will be decoding are in the 700/800mhz. Some at the lowest will be 500mhz. There are rarely any VHF P-25 systems here in NJ. There are conventional VHF bands for fire and EMS, but even then so its UHF 400mhz and above.
 

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if you could love to see the results on a realistic pro668 that are made by whistler all these forum members only talk about the ws 1080 and are missing out on a grate scanner at first i kicked my self for not getting a 436hp but your results conformed what others have said and since im one who cant put a antenna on the roof i rely on what the unit offers so sensitivity is vary important to me and since most of my listening is in the I54.0-156.0 MHZ and since when asked if i was not happy with the receive could it be sent in and id pay if needed UNIDENS FLAT OUT RESPONSE WAS "THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO! i went with the pro 668 instead. there was a time all i owned was uniden scanners but NO MORE! gone are the days of helping the scanner listener and in turn gone are the days of TRUSTING UNIDEN ! this may change but for now and with what they offer il stay with my whistler clone. HAPPY SCANNING EVERYONE
 

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if you could love to see the results on a realistic pro668 that are made by whistler all these forum members only talk about the ws 1080 and are missing out on a grate scanner at first i kicked my self for not getting a 436hp but your results conformed what others have said and since im one who cant put a antenna on the roof i rely on what the unit offers so sensitivity is vary important to me and since most of my listening is in the I54.0-156.0 MHZ and since when asked if i was not happy with the receive could it be sent in and id pay if needed UNIDENS FLAT OUT RESPONSE WAS "THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO! i went with the pro 668 instead. there was a time all i owned was uniden scanners but NO MORE! gone are the days of helping the scanner listener and in turn gone are the days of TRUSTING UNIDEN ! this may change but for now and with what they offer il stay with my whistler clone. HAPPY SCANNING EVERYONE

I understand where your coming from.
 

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On the contrary people do say that the audio from the bcd436hp on 700/800mhz is unsurpassed. Which is what my needs will be. My pro-106 can do all conventional/vhf.
 

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if you could love to see the results on a realistic pro668 that are made by whistler all these forum members only talk about the ws 1080 and are missing out on a grate scanner at first i kicked my self for not getting a 436hp but your results conformed what others have said and since im one who cant put a antenna on the roof i rely on what the unit offers so sensitivity is vary important to me and since most of my listening is in the I54.0-156.0 MHZ and since when asked if i was not happy with the receive could it be sent in and id pay if needed UNIDENS FLAT OUT RESPONSE WAS "THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO! i went with the pro 668 instead. there was a time all i owned was uniden scanners but NO MORE! gone are the days of helping the scanner listener and in turn gone are the days of TRUSTING UNIDEN ! this may change but for now and with what they offer il stay with my whistler clone. HAPPY SCANNING EVERYONE

So now it is confirmed that the customer service at Uniden is just as bad as it was 15 to 20 years ago. I called Uniden Customer Service and was told they are too busy to take calls and kissed it off to refer to their website.
But it isn't just Uniden as I called two other large scanner outlets and they said the same thing that they did not know the answer and to look it up on the Uniden website. Most of these places are only sales orientated with no tech support. So if you buy a product from them what good is it if there is no support for the products they sell?
 

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Most of these places are only sales orientated with no tech support. So if you buy a product from them what good is it if there is no support for the products they sell?

You mean as opposed to a company that only wants to sell cellphones, can't service what they sell, and is in the middle of bankruptcy proceedings?

Really, if you need support on any scanners, you're far better off asking on forums like this one or the email lists.

I also gotta love the posts about the sensitivity from people who don't understand the consequences of sensitivity in RF dense areas. They just want sensitivity so they can say theirs has more raw sensitivity but in reality theirs won't always have better sensitivity in the real world. RF just doesn't work like that.
 

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You mean as opposed to a company that only wants to sell cellphones, can't service what they sell, and is in the middle of bankruptcy proceedings?

Really, if you need support on any scanners, you're far better off asking on forums like this one or the email lists.

I also gotta love the posts about the sensitivity from people who don't understand the consequences of sensitivity in RF dense areas. They just want sensitivity so they can say theirs has more raw sensitivity but in reality theirs won't always have better sensitivity in the real world. RF just doesn't work like that.

Yes that is pretty much it what you said as I concur with you about the forums being more helpful but there doesn't seem to be as much activity like before. The Uniden Site is pretty dead.
You must be refering to RS in middle of bankrupcy proceedings and not Uniden?
 

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Yes, that whole line was talking about RS. Could you imagine the outrage if Uniden decided to not service their products? But, when another company decides to do it, that's OK. Shows you that the top dog always has the target on his back.
 

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You mean as opposed to a company that only wants to sell cellphones, can't service what they sell, and is in the middle of bankruptcy proceedings?

Really, if you need support on any scanners, you're far better off asking on forums like this one or the email lists.

I also gotta love the posts about the sensitivity from people who don't understand the consequences of sensitivity in RF dense areas. They just want sensitivity so they can say theirs has more raw sensitivity but in reality theirs won't always have better sensitivity in the real world. RF just doesn't work like that.

I can personally careless if it's off by a little bit not picking up weak signals. Most weak signals where I am at is from repeater's 30+ miles away. I don't monitor HAM or 2 meter amateur stuff anyway. If I do that's what my trusty Pro-106 is for. Mainly my upgrade is for 500mhz and above. Which people say the uniden are more suburb on. Personally I have no idea to either ones performance except all this hearsay. Most complain about both sides equally. Especially from ones who own both. There are just as many pro's and con's from all manufacturers.

As for support. I think voyager said it best. In this day and age we shouldn't rely on any companies tech support short of updates ( maybe updates). We will always have just as much success if not more by being friendly to those here on RR and asking the more tech savvy ones for a helping hand and picking their brains.

Support is more for the radio end users like Motorola Solutions, Harris Corp, Icom, Kenwood, and the list goes on........
 

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No UPMAN you need to work hard so that my next Uniden scanner is as good as my BCD436HP. Which by the way has good VHF range good UHF range and good 700 800 range.

I really think it depends on what area. Plus many of the complaints are from low serial number model. Maybe ones recently produced have been performing better.
 

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Most complains come from people not knowing how to use what they have. I have an electronics degree, have worked in a twoway radio shop, co-administrator of our 800 system and have been using scanners or twoway radios from 1974 until now. My 785D has a better receiver than any of my GRE RS scanners it was just not user friendly with that said my BCD436HP has as good as a receiver as my 785D. I am using the same antenna on a stridsberg combiner so all my scanners see the same antenna and thats were I base my judgement from. You would be shocked how many people have no clue other than the power button turns on the computer. All of my scanners in my signature tag are still in use and have been tested side by side. Its almost to the point I would trade the close to the 1st sold PRO-668 for a good used BCD436HP or BCD536HP but it has a use and I will keep it.
 

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My 436hp receives the 160mhz freqs fine here. Sitting in my one story stucco home listening to noaa wx radio 162.550 35 miles away using rs800mhz antenna not strong but full quieting .
This problem must be with certain units...guess I got lucky.
Tim
 

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My 436hp receives the 160mhz freqs fine here. Sitting in my one story stucco home listening to noaa wx radio 162.550 35 miles away using rs800mhz antenna not strong but full quieting .
This problem must be with certain units...guess I got lucky.
Tim

Nice! I might streer towards the bcd436hp myself!!
 

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It truly is a great radio I have found no problems with mine YMMV
Tim

ThanKs. If I do steer that route I hope I have success too. Either way I will chime in and let you all know what scanner I choose and why, plus update as to whether I like it or not
 

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My 436hp receives the 160mhz freqs fine here. Sitting in my one story stucco home listening to noaa wx radio 162.550 35 miles away using rs800mhz antenna not strong but full quieting .
This problem must be with certain units...guess I got lucky.
Tim
That's basically the type of results I'm seeing, and not sure luck has much to do with it. Using the R/S 800MHz antenna, inside a house with aluminum siding, is going to affect range on any scanner,

With my 436, I hear everything that I can reasonably expect to hear. Sure, there are channels/systems farther out I can hear on my 536, but it's connected to a rooftop antenna. So it's not a good side by side comparison. The 436 matches up well with the other scanners inside, using the 800MHz antenna.
 

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That's basically the type of results I'm seeing, and not sure luck has much to do with it. Using the R/S 800MHz antenna, inside a house with aluminum siding, is going to affect range on any scanner,

With my 436, I hear everything that I can reasonably expect to hear. Sure, there are channels/systems farther out I can hear on my 536, but it's connected to a rooftop antenna. So it's not a good side by side comparison. The 436 matches up well with the other scanners inside, using the 800MHz antenna.

Yea I completely agree . I am using a compromised ant the rs800mhz in a compromised situation inside my home and still receiving 160 MHz well go figure.
Tim
 
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