Yep only one I have positively identified. (50289 KPD Dispatch)
There is 1 other one I thought might be KPD but its full ENC never heard it in the clear. (50389)
You can also see the '389 one is the only one that is TDMA (in that list).
I don't see any reason why 50289 KPD Dispatch, the main dispatch would be encrypted.
Now, 50389 I expect to have encryption based what that talkgroup's intended use it -- tactical communications between units, and not as a main dispatcher-to-unit channel.
I have heard the potential of one of the main dispatch groups moving potentially to encryption but I have yet to see any evidence of this. It would be interesting to see when that occurs.
I just Love Unitrunker..for the history alone.
I don't actively monitor KPD/Unidentified TGs, or record them.
At some point I ID'd
KPD 454 with Radio ID 10843302
And this RID is one of the more active IDs on TG (50389), that's why I thought it might be a KPD TG.
Also sometimes some of the RIDs that are active on that TG are active on All Service 1 (50428)
I just gave the other RIDs names so it's easier too see when they show up elsewhere.
All Service 1 can apply to any LE/FD/EMS agency as it's a shared talkgroup. All Svc1 can include large responses plan such as any Mass Casualty where everyone needs to hear the same information, or it could be a diverse talkgroup such as a water rescue or multi-agency funeral escort, so unfortunately that won't narrow down the list.
TGID 50370s are State Agencies, like Highway Patrol, and Parks & Wildlife Game Wardens
TGID 50380-50390s range from State to Federal Agencies
With that being the trend, I expect 50389 to be a federal or state agency and we know how the Feds like to keep their stuff encrypted. So, All Service 1 would not be ideal in those mission-sensitive operations as anyone can listen to it - the online listener, or any civilian.
It took a while to find this, but you heavy-duty scanner enthusiasts can possibly enlighten us:
Central Texas law enforcement agencies switching systems to share records easier
This is a database-type program. My belief is subscribing departments would utilize this platform as a browser-based package. The only examples I can think of are episodes of The First 48 where they show detectives looking up any "Street name" and coming back with name, photo, last known address, "handlings" or local arrests, etc.
To my knowledge, units with computers have 4G/5G wireless (such as AT&T FirstNet) and they were operating their RMS in-house. So they connect online, through a browser to connect to their city or county based server. This new program sounds like it will cut out the city servers and maintenance and move to "cloud"-based storage.
My guess would be like US government and military using encrypted cloud servers from Amazon or Microsoft to operate more efficiently and in real-time over a broader geographical area. It saves them from having to buy and maintain facilities, servers and keep those areas secure. You just pay to use the servers from another IT management company and then pay for subscription-based service priced for how many licenses/users.
I was in Bell county earlier this month and had my SDS200 with me along with another radio with Pro96Com running. I only logged a single TG that was running ENC (TG 50389) and there were 5 radios that were active on it. I actually did get 2 recordings from the SDS, playback was definitely encrypted/scrambled-which is weird since the SDS will usually drop the channel as soon as it detects ENC.
The 5 UIDs that I saw on TGID 50389 were 10843251, 10843253, 10843299, 10843301 and 10843302.
10843302 was the only radio I logged on another talkgroup (heard it on 50294-KILN PD SWAT 1); but I did note that Bell County appears to assign UID blocks to different agencies and it looks like the 10843xxx block actually belong to Bell County SO, not Killeen PD. All the Killeen PD radios use the 10844xxx UID block.
Its a small sample size...but it confirms some of your findings.
I am posting another thread inquiring about radio IDs for Bell county, if anyone has a moment take a look and see if you can provide any corrections or help. I will be passing through again a few more times this year--will see if I can help any more.
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Impressive. I wonder if there are details on radios or radio assignments. I know my local PD publishes their officers and assigned vehicles on their monthly reports to the city council, making it very accessible public record information. I would wonder if radio assignments are also accessible or FOIA. But not sure how that works. I think the cities and county cooperative in contracts and that keeps everyone on the same equipment and at times, even same software depending on contracts.
With your findings on KPD and Bell Co SO, I would propose based on my understanding that TGID 50389 is a state or fed agency, they are most likely "sheriff office" radios given out to these non-county agencies to work alongside local departments such as Killeen PD and Killeen PD SWAT. But I'm just speculating since it makes sense to get everyone on the same page to work together and I bet SWAT or Feds want to keep their operations Encrypted so it's not broadcast for everyone to follow along. I've heard from units that Temple and Killeen SWAT keep their radios encrypted. So I know for certain there have to be some TGID that are encrypted somewhere.
