Catching bits of radio chatter on Boulder County Fire regarding "new toning frequencies and auto dispatch" Anybody in the know can answer what is going on?
Boulder County Fire
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scanlist
Scanning since the 70's to today.
151.0775 CTCSS 77 (Fomer Boulder POLICE-2)
151.2200 CTCSS 77 (Former Longmont TAC)
151.4750 CTCSS 77
Logged these frequencies several months ago randomly simulcasting BCFIRE-1. So far only tones and AVD voice dispatch.
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151.2200 CTCSS 77 (Former Longmont TAC)
151.4750 CTCSS 77
Logged these frequencies several months ago randomly simulcasting BCFIRE-1. So far only tones and AVD voice dispatch.
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Thanks Scanlist. This was a real curveball. On AVD voice disp. Is the actual call given out?
scanlist
Scanning since the 70's to today.
Only paging tones and automated dispatch on the three 151 MHz channels. Dispatch is on the regular COUNTY FIRE-1 VHF channels and DTRS TG.
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soundchaser
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I think they are making a concerted effort to get main Dispatch off of VHF.
Talkgroups:
9586: Auto Dispatch (DB lists this as Search and Rescue)
9104: Dispatch
9593: patched to Dispatch (as of late last week). I suspect in the future this will be only tones (it's listed in DB as Fire Tones).
About a week ago, they spent an afternoon sending individual test tones to every possible department.
In answer to your question @Insulator, Auto Dispatch talkgroup is dispatching the full call. I don't know about the VHF channel.
Talkgroups:
9586: Auto Dispatch (DB lists this as Search and Rescue)
9104: Dispatch
9593: patched to Dispatch (as of late last week). I suspect in the future this will be only tones (it's listed in DB as Fire Tones).
About a week ago, they spent an afternoon sending individual test tones to every possible department.
In answer to your question @Insulator, Auto Dispatch talkgroup is dispatching the full call. I don't know about the VHF channel.
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soundchaser
Member
Over the past month I've noticed Allenspark Fire is now using P25 radios whereas before they were 100% analog. I'm not sure which site they are hitting. I always thought that was a dead part of the county for DTRS.
scanlist
Scanning since the 70's to today.
Unlikely VHF is going away when they fire up 3 new VHF frequencies for paging purposes. A number of mountain fire agencies are still VHF.
Is it possible they are doing the same on a DTRS group? Sure. There has been some random TG's in the past with unusual patching.
Also during testing today they were vefiying portables and pagers work receiving paging on the new VHF channels.
For example in Weld County fire agencies are paged seperately from the primary dispatch chanel. You will not hear the agency call on the dispatch channel only status updates as needed otherwise the fire agency operates on their assigned TAC channel. It's possible this is the direction Boulder County Fire Dispatch is heading. Similiar procedure is in use by South Metro Dispatch.
As they say wait until the dust settles down and observe while they establish the new system. Right now this has the appearance as a work in progress situation.
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Is it possible they are doing the same on a DTRS group? Sure. There has been some random TG's in the past with unusual patching.
Also during testing today they were vefiying portables and pagers work receiving paging on the new VHF channels.
For example in Weld County fire agencies are paged seperately from the primary dispatch chanel. You will not hear the agency call on the dispatch channel only status updates as needed otherwise the fire agency operates on their assigned TAC channel. It's possible this is the direction Boulder County Fire Dispatch is heading. Similiar procedure is in use by South Metro Dispatch.
As they say wait until the dust settles down and observe while they establish the new system. Right now this has the appearance as a work in progress situation.
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soundchaser
Member
Yes, I was past the time to edit my post after I went and listened to what was going on. Agreed, there are too many mountain departments still on VHF. I think they want to move the tones off of the Fire-1 channel, to follow the City of Boulder's example, where all initial dispatching is automated and off the main channel. During a big event the main dispatch channel can be really busy and they have to get everyone to shut-up while they send tones. Having specific channels and talkgroups for tones will eliminate that problem.
It's cool the county choose a female automated voice to differentiate it from the city, which uses a male voice.
It's cool the county choose a female automated voice to differentiate it from the city, which uses a male voice.
kjk681
Member
Looks like there are licensed to the county on license WSCS951
151.0775 is licensed @ Gunbarrel (Central transmitter site) and @ Lee Hill (historical backup site for county transmitters)
151.2200 is licensed @ Mead (North transmitter site)
151.4750 is licensed @ Mt Thorodin (South transmitter site)
Lots of pager test going on today.
151.0775 is licensed @ Gunbarrel (Central transmitter site) and @ Lee Hill (historical backup site for county transmitters)
151.2200 is licensed @ Mead (North transmitter site)
151.4750 is licensed @ Mt Thorodin (South transmitter site)
Lots of pager test going on today.
soundchaser
Member
All 3 VHF channels are transmitting simultaneously with the same info.
Message received, Scanlist.
I think since Im in Longmont I'll use either Mead or Gunbarrel site. For 700/800 any suggestions? Longmont, Mead or Gunbarrel?
scanlist
Scanning since the 70's to today.
9593 appears to be the winner on the DTRS side. Hearing it on the Thorodin site.
Gunbarrel DTRS site was shut down when the City of Boulder moved to DTRS and replaced with the 700 MHz simulcast
system 774.89375 CC.
Thorodin and the 700 simulcast are the best candidates. Chekout Mead to see if it is a good candidate. Mead signal is unusable up here.
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Gunbarrel DTRS site was shut down when the City of Boulder moved to DTRS and replaced with the 700 MHz simulcast
system 774.89375 CC.
Thorodin and the 700 simulcast are the best candidates. Chekout Mead to see if it is a good candidate. Mead signal is unusable up here.
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Thankx Scanlist. I may need to pick your brain over a beer on some of scanning issues. Only been doing this since 1977.
Insulator
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