Had a co-worker bring in his SDS200 - sounds much better than on my SDS100. Biggest difference is the larger speaker that can handle the lower-end of the audio spectrum MUCH better than the tiny speaker in the SDS100.
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I'm just hoping someone involved in the county's radio system administration team reads this message.
DON'T do what Osceola County did, and add their school buses to the public safety radio system!
They still don't know that they're not talking on CB Channel 19. Communications procedures? What's that?
No doubt some Harris salesdroid really wants to write the contract for a few more million bucks worth of radios
and load the system down even more, but I say...don't. Their UHF system works fine, radios are 500 bucks or so,
and having that kind of communications 'quality' on a public safety trunked system makes NO sense anywhere.
DON'T do what Osceola County did, and add their school buses to the public safety radio system!
They still don't know that they're not talking on CB Channel 19. Communications procedures? What's that?
No doubt some Harris salesdroid really wants to write the contract for a few more million bucks worth of radios
and load the system down even more, but I say...don't. Their UHF system works fine, radios are 500 bucks or so,
and having that kind of communications 'quality' on a public safety trunked system makes NO sense anywhere.
the Brevard school buses are on VHF, but that's not germane - I agree with you that they do not belong on a PS system.
Now, if you want to expand your message - let's talk about the Space Coast Area Transit buses...... and them being on the old EDACS system... because I would bet they get ported over to the P25 system. Then we can discuss L3Harris facility security being on a PS trunk.....
OFF TOPIC: someone should sell a nice DMR trunk to the school system so that the schools and the school buses are all on the same system (and frequency band).....
The SCAT buses started on the P25 system today
I'm not sure how the law is actually interpreted but the NPSPAC 800 MHz frequencies are ostensibly for "public safety" usage only, It's very much a question for interpretation as to whether or not specific activities qualify as 'public safety' concerns. Something tells me that while you might argue for a legitimate need for road and bridge crews, and maybe even for school bus traffic, when it comes down to public transportation, you're now in a very dark grey area. I don't think the SCAT buses should be on the system, in fact I question whether even Coastal non emergency transport qualifies. Certainly Harris corporate security doesn't.
In regards to Coastal, the recently started emergency transport for parts of the county.
Public transportation is planned by entities for evacuation usage, so yes they can be part of the overall public safety program. At my former employer they are in the plan to assist with evacuations out of the Belle Glade area in the event of issues with the dike around Lake Okeechobee and for hurricane evacuations for those that need transportations assistance to locations such as the Special Care Unit. They have also participated in our domestic security exercises that plan for mass evacuations.
Palm Beach County's "Palm Tran" has been on the county system since around 2005 with ~300 vehicles (buses & support) on 3 talk-groups and access to the EM Commons for interoperability. They are treated as part of the Public Safety family.
this makes sense to me. What I do not know is how SCAT plays into the bigger overall Brevard picture in this scenario ---- one would think they are part of the plan.... but .... who knows.
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Makes me curious why Space X is on the 800mhz band as well, but on DMR. They are a private entity.
As far as L3H security radios on the public safety system, I'm surprised they don't have security equipped with RF-7850M-HH radios so they could inter-cumminicate with any L3H facility security force throughout the U.S. or even the globe.
That may have been considered overkill for guarding the snack machines.😁
That may have been considered overkill for guarding the snack machines.😁
They play a similar role in Brevard. Mostly for mass casualty incidents and incidents at the port
Part of the 800 MHz band is licensable by non public safety entities. That's always been the case. It's just the 6 MHz NPSPAC segments that are PS restricted. I remember in the very earliest days when 800 was first opened up, RELM was making 800 MHz conventional mobile radios for small businesses getting licensed in that band. And then along came the SMRs. Privacy Plus, LTR, etc...I learned Moto trunking by hacking local SMRs with an STX and certain software. Fun times.
SpaceX, and others like FPL, are licensed in the General Category area of the 800 MHz spectrum. The initial 3 MHz at the bottom of the band, and its compliment frequencies (+45 MHz), is NPSPAC and reserved for Public Safety licensees.
Not that I am complaining, but it seems BCSO has not gone encrypted, at least from what I am hearing. Getting both ends of the conversation - dispatch and field units - on all their talkgroups, where as any other agency (speaking of Law Enforcement only), if ANYTHING, I hear their dispatch only. I do hear tone-outs for at least some fire units and have heard field units speaking to dispatchers on fire as well (not just county).
It would be nice if they choose to stay in the clear. Let's hope they do.
I have also not YET noticed any encrypted BCSO traffic. Doesn't mean there isn't any.
I have also not YET noticed any encrypted BCSO traffic. Doesn't mean there isn't any.
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👍🏻 ya tired of garbage trucks, hose draggers and throw and go units.
Not sure how that conclusion is being made.
There has been numerous BCSO units that are already encrypted on the P25 system and the number is slowly increasing.
The process seems to be the same as with all the other agencies so far. The individual units get programmed for private mode until all are operating in private mode, then dispatch switches to private mode. Once they are all operating in private mode on the P25 system then they are removed from the EDACS system.
There has been numerous BCSO units that are already encrypted on the P25 system and the number is slowly increasing.
The process seems to be the same as with all the other agencies so far. The individual units get programmed for private mode until all are operating in private mode, then dispatch switches to private mode. Once they are all operating in private mode on the P25 system then they are removed from the EDACS system.
Guess we're just idiots and assume things we shouldn't - thank you for blessing us with your knowledge.
Never said anyone was an idiot. I'm just a little puzzled that some of you guys aren't noticing the number of encrypted BCSO units already on the P25 system. This has been going on for about a week or more.
Which P25 simulcast cell are you guys primarily monitoring? I've not noticed a difference between cells.
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