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I read that browning mark 4's were made not to ping. I guess some people may have changed this but my mark 4 doesn't ping on channels 1-40 but it does seem to ping on side band. Is this a normal setup? Thanks Ron
 

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I read that browning mark 4's were made not to ping. I guess some people may have changed this but my mark 4 doesn't ping on channels 1-40 but it does seem to ping on side band. Is this a normal setup? Thanks Ron

If your browning pings on ssb then you better plan on being yelled at because I remember they didn't care for that noise, and I can't say I'd blame them!
That noise creates splatter on adjacent frequencies!

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FWIW I had a Cobra base station that made a ping sound when I keyed up the mic. Turned out a previous owner clipped the limiter combined with the power mic, I was using, was the apparent cause of the problem. Turned down the "Dynamike" control to about a quarter of the way and reduced the level on the microphone itself down to the same level and the ping stopped.
Maybe something to look at or try.
 

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If your browning pings on ssb then you better plan on being yelled at because I remember they didn't care for that noise, and I can't say I'd blame them!
That noise creates splatter on adjacent frequencies!

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The browning trade mark is this ping. if they don't like it on ssb tell them to stick it their ear.
 

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The browning trade mark is this ping. if they don't like it on ssb tell them to stick it their ear.

Trademark or not, it's intentional interference on adjacent frequencies which are poor operating practices, on any band!

Solving the the problem is preferred rather than pissing off your fellow operators! ;)
You're a ham, so this should be apparent to you right?


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Trademark or not, it's intentional interference on adjacent frequencies which are poor operating practices, on any band!

Solving the the problem is preferred rather than pissing off your fellow operators! ;)
You're a ham, so this should be apparent to you right?


73,
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This is something browning put in their radios a long time ago not the end user and the FCC was ok with it. becidies there isn't enough people on the cb any more to worry about PISSING anybody off. I used to talk on the 147.090 repeater in williamsport pa till the retards from 27 megs. came on ticket or not and the noise and kerchunkin of the repeater is so bad you can't use it most of the time. it is nothing but cb on another frequency Romper room for adults. BTW have you listened to 14.313 ? i wouldn't have it on when my wife was in the room.

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It is true that browning had a patent on the ping and was allowed by the FCC for mark 2 amd mark 3. By mark 4 they were told by the FCC to stop. So early radios were fine with the ping. Mark 4 radios are not allowed. I'm more concerned with people using the F bomb on all radio which appears fine to do on CB now.
 

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This is something browning put in their radios a long time ago not the end user and the FCC was ok with it. becidies there isn't enough people on the cb any more to worry about PISSING anybody off. I used to talk on the 147.090 repeater in williamsport pa till the retards from 27 megs. came on ticket or not and the noise and kerchunkin of the repeater is so bad you can't use it most of the time. it is nothing but cb on another frequency Romper room for adults. BTW have you listened to 14.313 ? i wouldn't have it on when my wife was in the room.

Later Dude.
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I agree with you about the hf bands being rampant with morons. Which is why I prefer 220mhz. and up. Simplex is what I usually listen to.
Yeah, browning was known for the noise, but it's not hard to kill the feedback so it doesn't splatter.
Your repeater trustee or owner should have shut the machine down on .090 if the new ops were being jerks, until they were taught manners! None of that trash is allowed on the machines here.

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I grew up with CB in the family as my parents had a Browning CB with a D-104 mic as a base station, and it was quite a novelty hearing that ping when the mic was keyed since not too many CBers had one at that time. As the time passed however, the novelty wore off and the ping became annoying, so much in fact that I would go outside and use the mobile to chat with friends. I can remember some that I spoke with complaining about that constant ping and comparing it to somebody that's always tapping on the table. Ah, what memories!

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It is not intentional interference as it is just a side effect of the transmitter keying while the radio is still receiving (seperate transmitter/receiver). To avoid it making that sound on my Mark III, I just turn AGC off (pull out on the RF Gain knob) and the ping goes away. It still makes a slight ping on SSB even when the AGC is off. Turning on AGC makes the normal ping noise. It is different every time because it depends on how far away from the speaker you are when keying up the mic. You can make a rediculous noise if you hold the mic close to the speaker when keing the mic, or you can hold the mic far away from the speaker when keying up to avoid a loud/long ping. Turning the squelch up also kills the ping as the mic doesn't pick up the speaker noise while keying up.
 

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It is not intentional interference as it is just a side effect of the transmitter keying while the radio is still receiving (seperate transmitter/receiver). To avoid it making that sound on my Mark III, I just turn AGC off (pull out on the RF Gain knob) and the ping goes away. It still makes a slight ping on SSB even when the AGC is off. Turning on AGC makes the normal ping noise. It is different every time because it depends on how far away from the speaker you are when keying up the mic. You can make a rediculous noise if you hold the mic close to the speaker when keing the mic, or you can hold the mic far away from the speaker when keying up to avoid a loud/long ping. Turning the squelch up also kills the ping as the mic doesn't pick up the speaker noise while keying up.

It IS intentional interference when ops don't turn it off, when there are people talking on the next frequency over!

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It IS intentional interference when ops don't turn it off, when there are people talking on the next frequency over!

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There isn't an "off" for the "ping." If you have a transmitter and you key up beside a receiver, you are going to get feedback. That is all the ping is. It is the fading away of said feedback. People refer to it as a ping, 'cause that is what it sounds like on the receiving end.

The only options you have to "turn it off" are to turn up the squelch or turn off the AGC.

Neither one are very practical as you have to turn down the squelch to hear distant stations and most folks like having AGC.

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Forgot to address the adjacent frequency splatter. Mine does not splatter as I run it stock. They will splatter when run with an amplifier or when people "peak and tune" their radios with golden screw drivers.
 
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There isn't an "off" for the "ping." If you have a transmitter and you key up beside a receiver, you are going to get feedback. That is all the ping is. It is the fading away of said feedback. People refer to it as a ping, 'cause that is what it sounds like on the receiving end.

The only options you have to "turn it off" are to turn up the squelch or turn off the AGC.

Neither one are very practical as you have to turn down the squelch to hear distant stations and most folks like having AGC.

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Forgot to address the adjacent frequency splatter. Mine does not splatter as I run it stock. They will splatter when run with an amplifier or when people "peak and tune" their radios with golden screw drivers.

There isn't an "off" for the "ping."

There is if somebody yanks the damn plug out of the wall!

Doesn't matter to me anyway since that band hasn't existed since 1958! ;)

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This may come as a surprise but even Browning owners hated that ping and more than I can remember came to me with $20 bills in hand to have them de-pinged.

These days with all the noisemakers about I'd be changing that... almost gave it away there... for a simple electronic device that makes a short machine-gun burst sound. Oh you know, a different kind of Browning. (;->)
 

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Perfect cure for noisy cb's :twisted:

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Hello All: Yeah I agree the "Ping" of "Genick Gook" sounds great and brings back great memories.

During the late 1960's I worked on a Commerical Fishing Boat fishing for Albacore Tuna, we traveled all over the west coast. From San Diego to Washing State, and several hundred miles out at sea. The fishermen all called the CB the "Mickey Mouse" as it wasn't considered a long range radio. But many contacts were made at 40 miles plus durning the night and even the day.

The ol man removed a old WWII Direction Finder Loop Antenna and installed a 2 element quad CB Antenna for DF'ing down the boats that talked about good fishing location. It was very easy to use the ceiling mounted wheel to rotate the antenna and see were the station of interest was coming from.

One ststion we could talk to and always here was CC in Arkansas, he had a Browing Radio and you could hear him just about every were! We were able to talk to him and he placed phone calls for us to home. CC had a very distink "Ginick Gook" that let you know it was him.

I bought a Browning III just for its trick "Ginck Gook" or Ping. Very good radio, with its D-104 Mic. The Browning II Radios had the Collins IF Filter at 455Kc, that made those radios have a pretty tight reciver.

Yeah the ping is great to hear, as its quit rear now.

Jay in the Mojave Miss Dinah's Gas station and store has new heavy winter jackets on sale, but the gas prices are gettin pretty steep at 4.60 a gallon.....
 

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Yo Jay,
Did you ever work outta "Pedro" in your fishin days?
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Hello All: Yeah I agree the "Ping" of "Genick Gook" sounds great and brings back great memories.

During the late 1960's I worked on a Commerical Fishing Boat fishing for Albacore Tuna, we traveled all over the west coast. From San Diego to Washing State, and several hundred miles out at sea. The fishermen all called the CB the "Mickey Mouse" as it wasn't considered a long range radio. But many contacts were made at 40 miles plus durning the night and even the day.

The ol man removed a old WWII Direction Finder Loop Antenna and installed a 2 element quad CB Antenna for DF'ing down the boats that talked about good fishing location. It was very easy to use the ceiling mounted wheel to rotate the antenna and see were the station of interest was coming from.

One ststion we could talk to and always here was CC in Arkansas, he had a Browing Radio and you could hear him just about every were! We were able to talk to him and he placed phone calls for us to home. CC had a very distink "Ginick Gook" that let you know it was him.

I bought a Browning III just for its trick "Ginck Gook" or Ping. Very good radio, with its D-104 Mic. The Browning II Radios had the Collins IF Filter at 455Kc, that made those radios have a pretty tight reciver.

Yeah the ping is great to hear, as its quit rear now.

Jay in the Mojave Miss Dinah's Gas station and store has new heavy winter jackets on sale, but the gas prices are gettin pretty steep at 4.60 a gallon.....
 

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Personally, I always enjoyed hearing the "ping" back in the day (60's) since it was usually followed by a clean and clear modulated sound (I only used AM back then). As far as the purposeful noisemakers of today....faagettaboutit!...just my 2 cents...
 
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