BUYER BEWARE - NEW UPGRADED ARDV10 - IS IT TRUE?

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cpootjes

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Ha ha stupid me. I did not know that.
Can you see at the serial when its production date is?
 

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Mine says *AA6313__* is this good or bad. I have only used mine for Tetra and it is not good. Only working if signal is powerfull.
 

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Mine says *AA6313__* is this good or bad. I have only used mine for Tetra and it is not good. Only working if signal is powerfull.
Good or Bad in relation to what ?
Till now all DV10's have the same hardware and the only differences are what version of firmware you have loaded into it, the latest being V1912A (BETA) dated Dec. 16, 2019.

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I have only used mine for Tetra and it is not good. Only working if signal is powerful

As I have already mentioned, there lies the problem, especially with Digital signals.

With the AR-DV10 one can never be sure if it is actually listening to the frequency it displays on its screen. It will drift with temperature, and AOR's software method of trying to compensate for that means the Receiver will be 'jumping' about trying to adjust the frequency, with varying success.

Remember the Radio always shows the frequency that was selected, on its screen, however 'internally' that is subject to drift. Some people seem to think that a 'drifted' frequency will be reflected on the Radio's display. It is not.

The varying frequency offset may not be large, and sometimes, randomly, may be correct (for a time), but with weaker Digital signals that may often mean the DV10 'misses' them totally.

Being Digital, then as far as the Operator is concerned nothing happens. No modulation, no indication whatsoever.

With an analogue signal it is different. If, for example, you are trying to listen to a sideband signal, with the squelch 'off', the DV10 will probably pick it up, but you may need to re-tune the Radio to demodulate the signal correctly.

Say you have tuned the DV10 to an analogue transmission e.g. 5.505, Shannon Volmet USB. The radio will show '5.505' on its screen, and the 'shown' frequency will not change. However you cannot be sure that the DV10 is actually listening to that frequency exactly. With a stable receiver like the AR-DV1 or Icom IC R30, when you have entered 5.505, and you are in range of the transmission, you will hear the voice weather information without having to retune. With the DV10 perhaps that will happen, but due to the hardware instability, the chances are you my hear the signal, but to listen to the voice correctly you will have to tune up or down, depending on temperature, or if you are holding the Radio in your hand. Nevertheless you will often be able to detect the transmission is there audibly.

A digital signal, unless quite strong, is an entirely different matter. The internal frequency deficiency may result in 'nothing. The radio shows no indication of a signal being present at all. So, unlike 'analogue', since you do not know there is an active transmission you can hardly try tuning around the displayed frequency on the off chance.

There are those who maintain their DV10's pick up digital signals well. It will pick strong ones up with little problem. Nobody ever can tell if the DV10 is missing a digital signal because of the frequency having drifted by having a stable receiver set to the same frequency/mode, and 'sharing'' the same antenna.

So, and no apologies for repeating this again, with the DV10 'You do not know what you are missing'.

In my opinion the DV10 should never have been released without adequate temperature compensation, in its hardware design. Once the problem came to light it should have been withdrawn and 'fixed'. AOR decided not to do that, and apparently 'blame those who post about the matter', say they are spreading 'fake news', and that the radio is frequency stable.

Great looking radio. Wonderful 'alleged' specs. Fantastic idea to produce the DV10 with all it 'should' have been able to do. However, I for one expect any modern radio to 'listen' to the frequency I dial in, with the confidence that it is always doing that. Whether I can pick up a signal or not depends where I am, my antenna etc, but should never be a matter of potential 'hit and miss' due to suspect hardware design.
 

cpootjes

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So strange.... mine functions perfect on DRM and Tetra. Even with low signal strength.
 

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Fair enough...
How does it compare to your 3600 ? as I have found the 3600 on UHF DMR requires a hefty signal to decode..
To compare receivers and scanners on the same antenna I use a Cross Country Wireless multicoupler, this can sometimes by an eye opener..

Mike
 
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