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What location are you planning on listening to? I am assuming you are wanting to listen to Public Safety (Police, Fire, etc.) The Radio Reference Database will help you figure out what is out there to listen to and whether you need a trunk tracker scanner or not. Note, anything listed with an "E" in the database is fully encrypted and no scanner can listen to those channels / frequencies.
bearcatrp
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Handheld or desktop?
Interesting Google Gemini response (if it is accurate):
I am going to assume he is in Alabama based on the username. According to a note on the database, they went to the state trunk system a few days ago. It appears all law enforcement is encrypted in the county. Fire and EMS is available on the state TRS. St. Clair County, Alabama (AL) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
That is probably a good guess on their location. It will be interesting to see if you are correct. šš»
So am I.. Riverside where?
Riverside - Wikipedia
Welcome to the RR forums. Specific info goes a long way if you're seeking a scanner recommendation
wtp
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and it would help a bit if you added your state to your profile. for future questions.
In lieu of further response from the OP, I'd lean toward agreeing with Kingscup, based on the OP's username:
If your location is indeed St. Clair County, the database page in his response will point you to what is used in your area.
Riverside, AL, has a couple of conventional of Vhf channels listed. However, comments appended to the city indicate that police & fire dispatch is done, by the county, on Alabama's statewide system AIRS. Fire is in the clear, but law enforcement dispatch is flagged as being encrypted. No scanner can decode encrypted transmissions. If, by chance, your city also (at times) uses their conventional channel, you might be able to monitor at least some of the activity in your area.
For the statewide system, the site listed for your county (St. Clair) is flagged as simulcast. Simulcast sites can cause issues with reception, causing distortion that only Uniden's SDS series scanners (SDS100, SDS200, & SDS150) can reliably handle. See this Wiki page for more on simulcast issues. Simulcast is very dependent on location. Your exact location, especially relative to perhaps hills or clusters of taller buildings, can play a large part on whether you do, or do not, have reception problems due to simulcast.
Looking at some of the other towns in St. Clair county, AL, I see see several towns, as well as some county frequencies, that show to be using DMR. If those are of interest, be sure that the scanner you intend to purchase can handle that signal format. For the Uniden SDS series, as well as other Uniden scanners, DMR capability requires a paid upgrade to be able to follow those transmissions.
(I see several posts in the Alabama forum related to St. Clair)
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Regardless of where you live these days, it would, in my opinion, be foolhardy to buy any new scanner that is not capable of following trunked radio systems. Even if this capability is not currently needed to monitor public safety/public services, it very likely will be needed in the foreseeable future. Small cities, counties (and even states) all over the country are joining together to create these area-wide radio systems.
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wtp
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yep, law stuff looks to be all encrypted.
unless you want to listen to other stuff.
unless you want to listen to other stuff.
If it fits your budget, I'd recommend either of the Uniden SDS radios or the 436 or 536. I like all of those for the recording functions. Whistler has some okay scanners, but nothing like Uniden.
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eddiemax
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This may be a bit late, but you should check the St. Clair section at the following link before buying an expensive scanner. A lot of what you likely want to listen to is encrypted and not an option even with a trunktracking scanner.
Alabama Interoperable Radio System (AIRS) Trunking System, Varies, Alabama
Alabama Interoperable Radio System (AIRS) Trunking System Profile
www.radioreference.com
btw: those who scolded you for not saying what state you're in should know that this is the ALABAMA discussion forum and Riverside is in ALABAMA.
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Register and listen to St. Clair agencies at this link to see what you can hear on a scanner: Broadcastify Calls Coverage
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.All law enforcement/fire ems is dispatched by central dispatch in downtown pell city. they are using the state radio network called alabama interoperable radio system.
3 talk groups are for law enforcement law north, law south, and the sheriffs office. moody and pell city pd each have thier own talk group. How ever all law enforcement dispatch channels are encrypted.
the county fire is clear and from what i have been told not able to verify that the main co fire tg is patched over to the old vhf fre of 154.010.
As for the dmr frequencies its my understanding they are used as fire backup channels they are also fulltime encrypted using dmr motorola Enhanced Privacy . meaning if u got a scanner that could decode dmr you would still not hear them.
The st.clair county part of the system is simulcast meaning everything in the county will be heard on this site. with you being in riverside you maybe far away enough not to have a issue with lsm. simulcast distoration .
To beat this its going to have to be a sds series is the best bet .
You can try to find a bcd996 xt or bcd 996 p2 used fairly cheap on ebay i would not pay over 300.00 for one . again you maybe be far enough away not to get lsm .
as my good friend eddiemax suggested u can listen on line but keep in mind your going to have a delay of 1 to 2 mins max vs real time dispatch and stream audio.
Look at Alabama Interoperable Radio System (AIRS) Trunking System, Varies, Alabama .
Anything with a DE is full time encryption meaning 24/7 use.
a De means they have the ablity to use encryption by either flipping a button or a switch on the radio or dispatch console .
some agencies will either run encrpytion on the officers talking to dispatch and leaving dispatch clear. or vive versa.
3 talk groups are for law enforcement law north, law south, and the sheriffs office. moody and pell city pd each have thier own talk group. How ever all law enforcement dispatch channels are encrypted.
the county fire is clear and from what i have been told not able to verify that the main co fire tg is patched over to the old vhf fre of 154.010.
As for the dmr frequencies its my understanding they are used as fire backup channels they are also fulltime encrypted using dmr motorola Enhanced Privacy . meaning if u got a scanner that could decode dmr you would still not hear them.
The st.clair county part of the system is simulcast meaning everything in the county will be heard on this site. with you being in riverside you maybe far away enough not to have a issue with lsm. simulcast distoration .
To beat this its going to have to be a sds series is the best bet .
You can try to find a bcd996 xt or bcd 996 p2 used fairly cheap on ebay i would not pay over 300.00 for one . again you maybe be far enough away not to get lsm .
as my good friend eddiemax suggested u can listen on line but keep in mind your going to have a delay of 1 to 2 mins max vs real time dispatch and stream audio.
Look at Alabama Interoperable Radio System (AIRS) Trunking System, Varies, Alabama .
Anything with a DE is full time encryption meaning 24/7 use.
a De means they have the ablity to use encryption by either flipping a button or a switch on the radio or dispatch console .
some agencies will either run encrpytion on the officers talking to dispatch and leaving dispatch clear. or vive versa.
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