CB DX Culture

[WSAC829]

Our local channels back then were 1, 7, 11, and 32. He didn't disrupt 19. It wasn't a big deal. When he was doing it we just used one of the other channels. It wasn't the end of the world.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

What's needed is for someone to invent a time machine, send us back to the 1950's so we can find the guys that decided to use 27 MHz and strangle them! The whole idea was for a "short range" radio of about ten miles or so. We needed a higher frequency but the dimwits didn't think it through. Now, the whole 25-28 MHz area is basically lost and has become a radio version of Loard of the Flies.

If you went back to the 1950's you would find folks licensed for Class A and Class B CB at 460 MHz.






Ham radio has plenty of spectrum and they are more likely to lose it to cellphone companies because that is where the government makes its money and FCC becomes relevant to the politicians who otherwise see it as a regulatory nuisance. The class D "CB" band 26.965 to 27.405 MHz is only 440 of 1950's Kilocycles . Not much compared to the spectrum horded in Part 97.

 

[Varmonter]

I hear some pretty weird stuf on 11m am..Not unlike forums or social media there is a certain amount of anonymity on 11m .
No traceable call signs and a certain amount of notoriety that comes with being...well ..an idiot.
Mudduck and the 111 guy, as annoying as they are I think get a certain kick out of being recognized..There is a plethora of others that seek and conspire to eliminate these people from the airwaves..whole Facebook pages dedicated to talk trash about these folks..Mudduck had a good station.Clear an far reaching..He would just ramble on and on tying up 19(not good) So folks got together and he's gone now..No fault but his own..But now people miss him...so go figure..??
I listened on 28 today for probably an hr..made 1 contact from ga to Nebraska..I considered it a good day...Stations like motor mouth maul or mudduck in the desert are to be envied. But not relegated to seek and destroy missions..The 111 guy is next..sad really but folks are after him..Its a strange culture..

 

[slowmover]

I hear some pretty weird stuf on 11m am..Not unlike forums or social media there is a certain amount of anonymity on 11m .
No traceable call signs and a certain amount of notoriety that comes with being...well ..an idiot.
Mudduck and the 111 guy, as annoying as they are I think get a certain kick out of being recognized..There is a plethora of others that seek and conspire to eliminate these people from the airwaves..whole Facebook pages dedicated to talk trash about these folks..Mudduck had a good station.Clear an far reaching..He would just ramble on and on tying up 19(not good) So folks got together and he's gone now..No fault but his own..But now people miss him...so go figure..??
I listened on 28 today for probably an hr..made 1 contact from ga to Nebraska..I considered it a good day...Stations like motor mouth maul or mudduck in the desert are to be envied. But not relegated to seek and destroy missions..The 111 guy is next..sad really but folks are after him..Its a strange culture..

As concerns AM-19: never forget that this interference is to dissuade & discourage the use of the most commonly-used travelers channel.

There’s absolutely nothing innocent about this. It’s interference paid for. Gives “permission” to those others without principled morals. Trolls who are acting 24/7/365 in plenty of instances. Wherever I am in the USA I often hear the same malefactors despite that “Skip” sez plenty should come & go based on our relative geographical locations changing.

It’s not just their station, IOW.

11-Meter AM-19 Repeater in Colorado

Southbound thru Colorado Springs tonight and asked some base station locals if they could hear me across the sorry antenna built-in to this Freightliner. The louder one replied he was hearing me from an antenna to the north of town, but I was hearing him via repeater 1,000-ft above valley floor...

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I have never heard anything this “loud & clear” in the past thirty years. Which leads me to think it’s got other applications.

Their job — as that’s what it is — appears to be similar to keystrokes counted. They’ll record the days work and tally whatever it is gets them the online discount code past whatever other remuneration exists. They’ll stay up to speed with the recordings made by others.

Etc.

And they’re none of them too bright. They’ll let slip what’s needed to see the pattern when you’ve the hours I accumulate over a year.

— All that’s required is an iron ass and an empty head. The morals of a roach.

The times I can tell I’ll be heard via Skip I’ve challenged each or several as to why they’re stepping on 19 which we know is the primary channel used by as many as three-million truck drivers, and distinctly by the 750k who weeknights are more than 150-miles from home.

— This is before the TENS of millions of private individuals using their automobiles to support themselves and their families who would benefit by using Citizen Band .

Have I ever heard a better answer than, “I’ll do what I want to do and F the rest”. No.

This behavior needs to be singled out (AM-19) as it highlights what happens on other popular frequencies. Not just on 11-M, either.

On 11-M among those enjoying DX on Sideband one will hear LSB-20, 28, and 38 turn into a mess. But this doesn’t affect those in the middle of a thunderstorm or a brewing tornado. A major accident pile-up just ahead. An overturned school sports team van . . and every damned truck driver is off the throttle trying to figure out WHERE IN THE HELL IS THIS!?

Having gone thru this weekly I find it easy to say that hatred is to be cherished. Adjust the fuel/air mixture to get a clean flame.

A video I’ve posted before highlights this. Weather wasn’t the cause, and radio use is obviously not ameliorating the severity or length:

Why aren’t these drivers using AM-19? Some wouldn’t have avoided (too close), but those farther back could have taken action. They’re dissuaded from use via the roaches jamming up AM-19 every day of the year, dawn to dusk. The trucks seen piling up? MANY of those represent good truck driving jobs. Not rookies.

— The Enemy finds it fruitful to interfere with men establishing direct communications with each other.

Do severe-injuries and fatalities result?
(Do I have other stoopid questions?)

Those on 11M SSB having some fun from home or on other HF can wander to another set of frequencies. VHF, etc. It’s a masking operation elsewhere to make “bad individuals” the source of a problem which appears to peak on 19.

Take a step back and look again.

What help CB availed in western North Carolina I can’t say. There’s a bit of info from Amateurs (good & bad), but I’ve the very strong feeling that more & better CB use would have helped.

Except the trope that the unthinking believe THEY KNOW WHAT IS CB (they don’t), and that the roaches just re-enforce that unfounded opinion.

Thus my link in Post #2:
1). There’s a problem can be defined.
2). There’s a solution can be outlined.

“Oh, but I’ll never be far from home such that it’ll matter”. (Okay. And never need seatbelts or concealed carry to avoid severe injury or fatality either should circumstances change but once)

“Culture” is a misleading term as used. Posits that all behavior thereby denoted is a reflection of norms.

The mentally-ill or morally-depraved are outside of culture.

It’s a lie to claim otherwise.

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[K6GBW]

Stations like motor mouth maul or mudduck in the desert are to be envied. But not relegated to seek and destroy missions.

Really? How about people that take a crap on the beach, or play loud music in the parking lot at a hotel? When you have a community resource, like the airwaves, it's in everyone's best interest if people show some manners and respect. The people your are talking about have sever mental illness and cause turmoil for everyone around them. They need to be dealt with not admired.

 

[slowmover]

MMM in my experience doesn’t stay long enough on AM-19 for other than a hello.

Duk-Dik in the Desert will wipe out 19 on a regular basis for extended periods. It’s his crew in primarily FL & PA that then jumps in and blanks it in the intervals and for hours surrounding. Known as, The Window Lickers.

Once you see this the rest of the picture comes into focus. He’s just the ring-leader. The designated bad guy in their daily circle jerk.

Past this are local blow-hards, and a couple of So-Cal retards. Then PNW and some Canuck irritants.

Others come and go as is to be expected (as the map moves). No excuses for any of them.

MMM antenna

 

[Varmonter]

Really? How about people that take a crap on the beach, or play loud music in the parking lot at a hotel? When you have a community resource, like the airwaves, it's in everyone's best interest if people show some manners and respect. The people your are talking about have sever mental illness and cause turmoil for everyone around them. They need to be dealt with not admired.

Hmm I'm not condoning this behavior merely making a cultural observation..in the few years I've been involved with cb on a regular basis I've found it seems to draw a disproportionate amount of users otherwise in need of some severe mental health work. I don't know why..?
Just an observation..anecdotal at best..
I don't shoot skip on 19...Only because it's rude.
I understand it is the undocumented domain of America's Drivers..It should remain as such..In the grand scheme of legality not too many adhere to fcc rules..But that's a whole other thread.. I will not condone violence. Unless it is directed at me.. Then come armed to make it even..I will let the folks that choose to triangulate and strangulate do so. ..Just not my cup.. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate a good station when I hear it.. despite the idiot behind the mic..