CFD Apparatus status discussion (Non-Radio Information)

[Ghostpolice24]

I definitely didn't expect that move. So I assume if the Ambulance is gone from 11, it's taking 314's old bay?
Also, I have no idea if it was an unmarked for CFD's Chiefs or not but, I did see a Black brand new 2024/2025 Explorer parked in the lot with the other gray Deputy Chief Explorers at 16 the other day when a friend and I drove past. I wouldn't be surprised if all the older Explorers/Suburban's in CFD's fleet are getting replaced finally. (It's crazy to call 2016 old, but it's almost 10 years since we got any of the 2016 apparatus)

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

I definitely didn't expect that move. So I assume if the Ambulance is gone from 11, it's taking 314's old bay?
Also, I have no idea if it was an unmarked for CFD's Chiefs or not but, I did see a Black brand new 2024/2025 Explorer parked in the lot with the other gray Deputy Chief Explorers at 16 the other day when a friend and I drove past. I wouldn't be surprised if all the older Explorers/Suburban's in CFD's fleet are getting replaced finally. (It's crazy to call 2016 old, but it's almost 10 years since we got any of the 2016 apparatus)

EMS got flexed to 20, so 20 is a core staff hall for AHS now. I have no idea what hall became a flex, because 29,33,8,2,1,14,19,24,9 already exist

 

[ENGINE_4]

Alberta Purchasing Connection

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Officially, to go along with the new Tenders and Ladders, all new Engines and Rescues will be made by Pierce.

 

[255-Jacobs]

$80,325,000 is how much money was awarded. How many rigs does CFD intend to purchase because a lot of rigs and equipment can be acquired with that kind of money.

EMS got flexed to 20, so 20 is a core staff hall for AHS now. I have no idea what hall became a flex, because 29,33,8,2,1,14,19,24,9 already exist

What exactly is a flex hall? Is it just a fire hall that EMS likes to stack up units at?

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

What exactly is a flex hall? Is it just a fire hall that EMS likes to stack up units at?

Essentially, some AHS/CFD halls are primary, so if they need an ambulance there is one available. Others are flex halls, so ambulances can be flexed there so long as the primary halls already have medics in them.

 

[ENGINE_4]

$80,325,000 is how much money was awarded. How many rigs does CFD intend to purchase because a lot of rigs and equipment can be acquired with that kind of money.

The summary of the posting said over the life of this contract (4 years, 51 weeks) CFD would purchase 45 Engines (more or less) spread over 9 years (5 Engines a year) and 10-20 Rescues (Techs, Tech Supports, maybe Air/Light and Highrise). 5 Engines must be delivered in the next 2 years.
This all comes down to money of course. In the last 20 years CFD has ordered 39 Engines with Smeal and 17 at one time with Rosenbauer. It really depends on how much CFD is allowed to spend. They do not have $80 million right now, but over the next 4 years and with the money they have saved in the account, it could add up to that $80 Mil mark. Unless it's all smoke and mirrors to drag Pierce into a contract lol

 

[255-Jacobs]

The summary of the posting said over the life of this contract (4 years, 51 weeks) CFD would purchase 45 Engines (more or less) spread over 9 years (5 Engines a year) and 10-20 Rescues (Techs, Tech Supports, maybe Air/Light and Highrise). 5 Engines must be delivered in the next 2 years.
This all comes down to money of course. In the last 20 years CFD has ordered 39 Engines with Smeal and 17 at one time with Rosenbauer. It really depends on how much CFD is allowed to spend. They do not have $80 million right now, but over the next 4 years and with the money they have saved in the account, it could add up to that $80 Mil mark. Unless it's all smoke and mirrors to drag Pierce into a contract lol

So that brings us to 2 Tenders, 10-20 Rescues (and everything that looks like one), 45 Engines, 4 Stock Engines, 6 Ladders, 4 BTs, 2 FRP's for brand new apparatuses CFD will receive over the next few years. I think we're about to be the new reason behind Pierce's long wait list 😂

 

[ENGINE_4]

Don't forget the 8 replacement Ladders for the Smeal Quints and the 3 odd ball (2 Pierce, 1 Smeal) trucks in the fleet as well!

 

[ENGINE_4]

41 new Firefighters graduated on Friday meaning 10.25 new members per shift. With no new Ladders to put those ff's on we should see most if not all Rescues and Ladders staffed or more 5 ff Engines. Apparently E5008 has been leased out to Kananaskis until there new Quint is delivered and comes on-line

 

[255-Jacobs]

Chestermere Fire Services have made the switch from providing EMR care to the PCP/ALS level of care. This makes their scope of practice equivalent to that of AHS Paramedics. Every firefighter is gonna be PCP certified which gives their rigs the ability to carry ALS equipment. Engine 116 is now a Paramedic Engine pretty much. There is no word if they're gonna get an ambulance to add onto this or not but that might be their next step.

I wonder if CFD would ever adopt this.

 

[ENGINE_4]

CFD could. Seems the FRP's are running with 2 ff/paramedics now. They could start with transporting injured ff's and go from there but that would be years and additional millions of dollars, ambulances and paramedics away. It would be really nice to see though

 

[255-Jacobs]

We've had discussions in the past regarding the matter. To switch CFD from EMR to PCP would be a whole project. That's excluding ambulances.
There would definitely be resistance as I'm sure not every FF would want to become a PCP. I'm not trying to mock any agency but change is feared within the fire service. Not everyone likes change. And hey, I get that.
Honestly I don't see an issue with remaining at the EMR level but I don't see an issue with being PCP either. Just keep in mind CFS is much smaller compared to CFD. To do something like this takes a lot of work.

 

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Calgary Fire Department battles four-year lead time to get new trucks - LiveWire Calgary

The Calgary Fire Department (CFD) is leasing new-to-them fire trucks and running older ones longer as they deal with delays and cost increases in purchasing new trucks to equip city firefighters. CFD Chief Steve Dongworth told a Community Development committee meeting last week that after...

livewirecalgary.com

Good article from the Chief about the current state of ordering trucks

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

Really interesting read. I wonder when those four Engines will be put in service. We were also expecting 2 or 3 sticks before summer, imagine that's not the case anymore.

 

[ENGINE_4]

Here is another article from the Herald. "The department recently ordered 20 Engines from Pierce, according to Dongworth. He added the department is also set to receive four new trucks, from a previous order, later this quarter" - Why the Calgary Fire Department doesn't 'buy Canadian' as trade war with U.S. continues

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

I haven't heard anything yet, but I imagine the G7 Summit will change the CFD a bit. Just like the WPC last year, maybe we'll see the return of the 70 series apparatus. I know CPS has been doing a lot of escort training, and CFD with their HazMat training. But it'll be cool to see what happens here in the next month.

 

[255-Jacobs]

So, based on the information a friend has given, the construction of Fire Station 3 in Inglewood has been cancelled. The city and the developer failed to reach an agreement and there has been massive push back from the community. People don't want to live above a fire station apparently.

Fire Station 3 will not be happening anytime soon sadly. This changes things for breaking up Station 1.

 

[255-Jacobs]

Afternoon lads. I'm sure all of you have seen the news on yesterday's job at the abandoned mansion in Rockyview County (CFDs first due, thanks CFF).

CFD had to implement a tanker shuttle for this run with the assistance of RVCFS. The fire also extended into the brush promoting a response from BB19 & BB23. Since all of Station 8 & 17 were at the job BB8 & BB17 could not make the response.

Anyhoo, here's the rundown:

EN08
EN15
EN17
EN21
EN29
EN35
L08
L17
RS08
HM17
HRS02
TE21
TE25
TE101
TE102
BB19
BB23
PIO
ADC6
DC3
DC4
RVC Chief (I don't know the call sign)


Enjoy!

 

[ENGINE_4]

Great rundown!

Sad news about Station 3, but not surprising. CFD's 2024 annual report has been published and can be found on CFD's main page - Calgary Fire Department

New Station 17's grand opening is on June 25th

 

[ENGINE_4]

Engine 324 is operational at Station 24