Why can't the rebanding be entered in the DB?
And the rebanding info above didn't list ValleyComm.
Change in the King County Public Safety System - Seattle?
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Why can't the rebanding be entered in the DB?
And the rebanding info above didn't list ValleyComm.
dpm3
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Yes, from the info supplied and various remarks made by some there seems to be an "issue" of some sort or another at work here. Exactly why the Database is in some manner deficient isn't clear; but it's current status certainly is not helpful to those who rely on it for up-to-date information. Plaudits to those here in the Forum who have shared their insight and advice; as well as those who have more subtly alerted some of us to the need for a Database update.
Here's how this works if some one that live's in that area submits info using the submission tab, the info will be added ASAP. speaking for myself I do not read the forums everyday as my work here is done for free and on my own time, I do check in 3 or 4 times a week to see if there are any submission for the areas that I work. and if there is I own them and work them as fast as I can, on the weekend most of the times,
The fact is there have not been any submission for King County for sometime now.The last one for this was 30 days ago and the 6 months before that both where folks with no submission at all,they where asking questions.
The fact is there have not been any submission for King County for sometime now.The last one for this was 30 days ago and the 6 months before that both where folks with no submission at all,they where asking questions.
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I do see that we have a Admin that lives in that area now, and I am sure that he will keep on top of this,Folks if you see anything that needs fixing please submit update inf
ne of us will be more than glad to add it to the database here.
ne of us will be more than glad to add it to the database here.
dpm3
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Plaudits to the Admins and others responsible who updated the frequencies for the King/Valleycomm site. Efforts are much appreciated. While I am receiving transmission via this site I still note, however, some issues with reception. The signal strength is fine but the audio is "choppy" and crackly with static. I am wondering if my site configuration "Trunking Tables" options are correct. I am using a Whistler 1080 programmed via EZ-Scan. I note that the McDonald Mountain site and the EPSCA Simulcast site, when received during scanning provide significantly better audio. Those sites are are set to "Default" (Macdonald Mountain) and "Custom" with specific Lo, Hi, Offset and Base Freq settings (EPSCA Simulcast). If someone out there with a better understanding of such matters (there are legions of you) has some insight and advice as to how such site settings for Valleycomm site ought to be configured, I'd welcome your input.
The only way I have ever been able to get the Federal Way site to come in even almost clear, is to use a Yagi antenna. That site is a pain for whatever reason. I am just across the valley with a clear shot at it and it still is sketchy. Even with a Yagi some channels are crackly, etc. Better than with out though. I'd say with a Yagi its 90 percent clear channels. Without one its more like 10 percent if you're lucky..It is location related though. When I am out driving, I can get that same site coming in perfect in places, using an 800mhz trunk mounted antenna. I will add this. I have noticed that if I use two scanners and a trunker type program. It for whatever reason comes in better, they all do for that matter. It's like when the scanner is used by itself to trunk, it being tuned to the data channel in the background causes problems or something. Go to a two scanner setup, one for data the other for voice. Instant improvement. Still not perfect though. Mcdonald point is much better. It just has a hiss to it. It's not a simulcast site though. So you can miss calls if groups you want to hear have no radios using that tower..Some groups are close enough to it that they are always on that site though.
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sirhcdeer
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Did you all get it sorted out? BTW, I'm ready to procure a new scaner, as mine is now obsolete on the countywide system.
Which models have been working "good."
BTW, you only need the control channel (and backup CC) for each specific SUB-SYSTEM. Remember there are THREE sub-systems that make up the countywide system:
1. King County/Valley Communitcations (jointly owned)
2. Seattle
3. EPSCA (North/northeast King County)
If you intend to listen to all three subsystems at once, then you need a radio capable of scanner multiple systems at once.
Which models have been working "good."
BTW, you only need the control channel (and backup CC) for each specific SUB-SYSTEM. Remember there are THREE sub-systems that make up the countywide system:
1. King County/Valley Communitcations (jointly owned)
2. Seattle
3. EPSCA (North/northeast King County)
If you intend to listen to all three subsystems at once, then you need a radio capable of scanner multiple systems at once.
...and what have you been smokin' ???
davdri
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All you need is a trunking scanner that will reband and have the proper freqs, it is that simple. I live in Des Moines (WA.), I have a RS Pro 107 with the RS 800mz rubber duck and scan So. King County cities PD and fire, KC Sheriff, Seattle PD & fire... Loud and clear.
sirhcdeer
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Same stuff as you. Elaborate please...
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I believe that Nick's point was that your info is a little off. First, the King County system comprises much more than 3 subsystems. There is many sites and "Intellipeaters". Secondly the system is a "Smartzone" system, so depending on what you want to listen to you don't need to simultaneously monitor all the sites. It all depends on what agency you want to listen to and if any of their units are affiliated into your nearest site/zone. Example: you can usually monitor most of the Seattle PD talk groups on the main Seattle, EPSCA, and ValleyCom sites. I can usually monitor the southern King County FD talk groups (that you'd normally hear on ValleyCom) on the EPSCA system - and vice versa. So you don't necessarily need to monitor all three main sites at one time. In addition, most scanners allow you to program in multiple sites while scanning selected talk groups. So in reality, 3 scanners are not really needed to monitor the action in King County.
sirhcdeer
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I know what Nick is referring to. I didn't elaborate in my post, because I didn't feel the need to get too granular regarding the details of the countywide system. So you know, I was one of the Zone-3 instructors for the current system (for my agency), and have a comprehensive understanding of how the system (and the upcoming replacement system) work. (PM for more info on the political BS that has transpired regarding the new system)
In essence though, there are THREE main sub-systems that comprise the countywide system. There is no disputing that. I know all about the zone controller, how affiliation works, and how smartzone controlls the whole ball of wax, plus what happens when Site Trunking occurs, as well as when Soft-Fail happens (has actually happened before).
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