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nated1992

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Checking to see if anyone has info on the CHEROKEE TRIBAL FDs system. I have what is available in the DB programed but never here anything. Same goes for most of swain... ik swain EMS is on viper and do here that. Would like to listen to Cherokee though.
 

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Have you tried the VIPER TGs for them?

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Have you tried the VIPER TGs for them?

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I haven't. I will put those in and see what I get. I have assumed they where on the NXDN system
 

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if on NXDN, they are conventional still. Last time I was there, they were talking on their frequencies. (12-2021)
 

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I wonder if I just can't here them at my location... but I feel I'm not far and should be able to in haywood?
 

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They should still be on NXDN or analog conventional as Evans' mentioned. Depending on what part of Haywood you're in, you may just be out of range with the mountain blocking you. We could catch it over in Sylva before but it wasn't always clear even that close. They do not use VIPER that much at all.
 

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They should still be on NXDN or analog conventional as Evans' mentioned. Depending on what part of Haywood you're in, you may just be out of range with the mountain blocking you. We could catch it over in Sylva before but it wasn't always clear even that close. They do not use VIPER that much at all.
Oh. So they switch between analog and NXDN? That I only have the digital programed I will try that!
 

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Have you tried the VIPER TGs for them?

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I can verify traffic on this talkgroup on the Murphy site.
 

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According to one of my contacts, Cherokee Tribal Fire & EMS run NXDN with encryption. No analog, all NXDN ENC.
 

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does any one lnow if swain county is nviper intalked to people and one side u cant listen to it with older scanner. And thnw he side its encypted ehat he heard someome here and it was clear was it both sides. Or dispatch and i was seeing about tribal police ems fire im heading down that way can anyone help me answer these queations
 

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does any one lnow if swain county is nviper intalked to people and one side u cant listen to it with older scanner. And thnw he side its encypted ehat he heard someome here and it was clear was it both sides. Or dispatch and i was seeing about tribal police ems fire im heading down that way can anyone help me answer these queations

??? I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. Please proof read your previous post. It is my understanding from my contact that you cannot hear Tribal Fire or EMS as they are using NXDN encryption. Not sure about police. The best thing to do is add the Viper TGs as well as the NXDN frequencies into your scanner (assuming your scanner is capable of receiving NXDN) to see if anything is monitorable and report back.
 

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I talked to swain county emgergncy mgmt and paramedic. One sjde u cant listen to. It with older scanner. Then he side it was encrypred he was.told. but some guy side he heard swain on. Viper rag so i was aski g he hear all traffic or one side. And i heard tribal.police was encytped but inwas wondering about swain ems tag if u can advise im not there so i cant. Do. It till im there and i got get nexden keys im not.going buy keys of its encrypted
 

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I talked to swain county emgergncy mgmt and paramedic. One sjde u cant listen to. It with older scanner. Then he side it was encrypred he was.told. but some guy side he heard swain on. Viper rag so i was aski g he hear all traffic or one side. And i heard tribal.police was encytped but inwas wondering about swain ems tag if u can advise im not there so i cant. Do. It till im there and i got get nexden keys im not.going buy keys of its encrypted

I'm not exactly following and it sounds like whoever you talked with doesn't quite understand scanners either. The original post was discussing Cherokee Tribal Fire and EMS. They run on NXDN. Certain scanners will pick up NXDN as long as the transmissions aren't encrypted. According to my contact (who is a very reliable source and works in public safety), Tribal Fire and EMS aren't monitorable with a scanner because they have encrypted NXDN. Swain County EMS is a separate agency. They utilize VIPER 100% of the time and can be heard if you have a scanner that will decode P25. The Swain EMS TG is listed in the NC VIPER database.
 

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I'm not exactly following and it sounds like whoever you talked with doesn't quite understand scanners either. The original post was discussing Cherokee Tribal Fire and EMS. They run on NXDN. Certain scanners will pick up NXDN as long as the transmissions aren't encrypted. According to my contact (who is a very reliable source and works in public safety), Tribal Fire and EMS aren't monitorable with a scanner because they have encrypted NXDN. Swain County EMS is a separate agency. They utilize VIPER 100% of the time and can be heard if you have a scanner that will decode P25. The Swain EMS TG is listed in the NC VIPER database.
Yea see ghey side viper was diffrent. Its not wake county and my part eastern nc just went phase 2. Which is uogrades. So. I thank u alot. Ru from the moutines and thanks. Im going cheroke not sure. If hear them.mjght make.it over swain o just got sds 100
 

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Adding this to the mix:
WPTZ988Cherokee, Tribe Of (Fish & Game)154.80000FX1/MO02/10/2022Renew/ModNXDNPublic Safety (PW)CherokeeSwainNC
WPTZ988Cherokee, Tribe Of (Fish & Game)159.25500FB2/MO02/10/2022Renew/ModNXDNPublic Safety (PW)CherokeeSwainNC
 

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Hellonare gane warrdens encryptes indebating rather to get dmr and im going that way swiansboro is viper but i seen lot games warnings if u fish they stop and check on u ibwas trying look at his radio i think was dmr
 

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Hellonare gane warrdens encryptes indebating rather to get dmr and im going that way swiansboro is viper but i seen lot games warnings if u fish they stop and check on u ibwas trying look at his radio i think was dmr
Sorry those frequencies are beyond my receive range. I found them here:
North Carolina FCC frequencies (fccupdates.com)
Was hoping someone closer to Swain county could use them.
 

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I can verify traffic on this talkgroup on the Murphy site.
Can you confirm that the Murphy site is actually operational? I could not get Joanna Bald nor the Murphy site to work when I was down there last. The only site I had success with was Rocky Top. Thanks!
 

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Can you confirm that the Murphy site is actually operational? I could not get Joanna Bald nor the Murphy site to work when I was down there last. The only site I had success with was Rocky Top. Thanks!
Listening to Cherokee County right now. I attached a picture of the control channel.
 

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Interesting, I noticed EMS crews here carrying yellow Kenwoods with VHF antennas. That doesn't seem to coincide with what's in the DB.
 
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