Christiana Care Sites

[chrishoerner]

Figuring out their newish DMR system. Seems like almost everything is encrypted I thought I had an open talk group last night. I made a Database Submission with what i found so far. Maybe someone else has more info or can confirm what I saw so far.

Wilmington Site
Capcity Plus
451.75 / CC 11 / LCN 1
451.85 / CC 11 / LCN 2

Talk Groups
10 E
30 E
40 E
41 E
50 E

 

[fireboat61]

Will the new Christiana care system also include Life Net 61 and Life Net 64 or will they stay using the current VHF frequency to Aircom ?

 

[chrishoerner]

Will the new Christiana care system also include Life Net 61 and Life Net 64 or will they stay using the current VHF frequency to Aircom ?

I was just wondering the same thing because I think Christiana Care also has a cap max or tier 3 wide area dmr system as well. When looking up the FCC data for the Wilmington site i noticed a bunch of FB8 Stations as well. The system I mentioned above was Cap Plus and the Station listed as FB2.

I'm going to guess they have an individual cap plus system at each site for Security, House Keeping, ect. I think they also have a Wide area System for transports, fleet maint, ect.

I wondered about life net as well, I think options are limited to what radios the FAA will allow in an aircraft. That said there is a talk group in the local NXDN system labled as Life Net and I have heard activity on it before. I'm not sure its used in the helicopter or just a patch to ground units or if its for something completely different.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Figuring out their newish DMR system. Seems like almost everything is encrypted I thought I had an open talk group last night. I made a Database Submission with what i found so far. Maybe someone else has more info or can confirm what I saw so far.

See our documentation in thread linked below. System has been online since at least 2016 so it's far from new. All traffic is full "E"

https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/monitoring-christiana-care.403957/

 

[chrishoerner]

Thanks @Whiskey3JMC I did not find this Thread. Did you guys make the database submissions back then? Last time I monitored them it was still LTR but noticed the database still reflected that and must be depreciated.

 

[chrishoerner]

It looks like you guys have figured out all the Cap Plus sites. I have mistaken Newark site for Wilmington which makes sense now I expected to be able to use a stubby antenna inside the Wilmington hospital but I wasn't getting the signal strength id expect.

Did anyone find anything on those MO8 or FB8 Channels? There must be a Centralized Trunk System with Mobile repeater setup In addition to the Site specific systems.

 

[Audiodave1]

I posted the CAP+ in the DB.

 

[u2brent]

I saw this older thread, which is closed.

461.175 DMR SL 1/2 CC 8 TGIDs 151 - 171 Union Hospital?

From SE PA, I'm receiving 461.175 MHz DMR SL 1/2 CC 8 TGIDs 151-171 and I'm trying to identify it. It's definitely a hospital or medical center. They've had LifeNET 164 land on their helipad. I don't believe that it is Main Line Health in PA and it doesn't match the db info for Beebe Medical...

forums.radioreference.com

FCC Callsign WRVG298 (UNION HOSPITAL OF CECIL COUNTY)

FCC Callsign WRVG298 (UNION HOSPITAL OF CECIL COUNTY)

www.radioreference.com

Was in the area using Close Call recently and hit on this.
They seem to be using DMR.
I've heard 464.875 Color Code 11 (Says Site 7, Possibly CAP+ could be trunked unsure) All Encrypted.

TG40 (05/21/2025) [RID 417] 464.875 CC11 ENC

TG50 (05/21/2025) [RID 292/65534] 464.875 CC11 ENC

461.1750 ?

463.6375 ?

464.6625 ?

Site 7? - Color Code 11 464.875 Elkton WRVG298

If anyone can sus out more details, Have at it.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Definitely a part of the Christiana Care CAP+ network, all CC11 & fully "E". Pretty sure I've seen TGs 40 & 50 logged at Chadds Ford Site 3. Possibly system wide

 

[u2brent]

Thanks!
I see this system has a long history, beginning with these 2 older threads.
Closed Monitoring Christiana Care
Current Christiana Care Sites
Maybe all three should be combined?
The wiki isn't currently associated/linked with the current RRDB system
I could be mistaken but it appears the DB has Sites 1&2 listed incorrectly.
According to the EXPIRED License KXD713 Site 1 maybe should be Newark & Site 2 Wilmington.
And just to consolidate the TGID's that have been reported to date from those resources, Here's a current list.

TG 10 (03/28/2020) [RID ?] Chadds Ford/Wilmington Site Possibly Security

TG 11 (03/28/2020) [RID 179] Chadds Ford Site Possibly Security

TG 19 (03/28/2020) [RID ?] Chadds Ford Site

TG 30 (03/28/2020) [RID 308] Chadds Ford/Wilmington Site Possibly Security

TG 31 (03/28/2020) [RID 308] Chadds Ford Site Possibly Security

TG 40 (03/28/2020) [RID 417] Chadds Ford/Elkton/Wilmington Site

TG 41 (03/28/2020) [RID ?] Chadds Ford/Wilmington Site

TG 50 (03/28/2020) [RID 292/65534] Chadds Ford/Elkton/Wilmington Site

And known Sites (All DCC/Color Code 11)

1 Newark/Newcastle DE WQDJ379/KXD713 Expired 1 463.6125 2 464.0500

2 Wilmington/Newcastle DE WQDJ379/KXD713 Expired 1 451.7500 2 451.8500

3 Chadds Ford/Delaware PA KXD713 Expired 1 463.8750 2 464.9625

4 Middletown/Newcastle DE KXD713 Expired 1 452.9750 2 464.9375

7 Elkton/Cecil MD WRVG298 LSN/LCN Don't know what 1 would be. Could be 461.1750, 463.6375 or 464.6625. unconfirmed 2 464.8750

Over

 

[u2brent]

Was in the area again, Based on reception, Newark is definitely Site 1.

Site 7 was found to have 3 active frequencies in use.

According to LCN finder. All CC11

461.175000	LCN 1
463.637500	LCN 2
464.662500	Not found in use
464.875000	LCN 3

If Site 7 Elkton has 3 frequencies in use, Then Site 1 Newark must have more than the 2 listed in the DB.
464.8375 may be LCN 3 at Site 1.
more searching needed to verify..

FCC Callsign WQDJ379 (CHRISTIANA CARE HEALTH SERVICES)

FCC Callsign WQDJ379 (CHRISTIANA CARE HEALTH SERVICES)

www.radioreference.com

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

@u2brent You want to submit the update for Site 7 or should I?

 

[u2brent]

@u2brent You want to submit the update for Site 7 or should I?

Go for it. 👌

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Stumbled upon 462.200 bursting rest Ch 5, stayed on it a while and heard it ID KXD713. Have made the submission, this is LCN 3 for Chadds Ford. So I'm wondering if each site has at least 3 freqs in their rotations now...

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

RRDB will definitely need work. Now getting 461.900 beaconing as Site 2, Ch 5. DB has Site 2 as Newark but license shows 461.900 to be at Wilmington, so it's looking like Site 1 should be Newark & Site 2 Wilmington...

 

[u2brent]

RRDB will definitely need work. Now getting 461.900 beaconing as Site 2, Ch 5. DB has Site 2 as Newark but license shows 461.900 to be at Wilmington, so it's looking like Site 1 should be Newark & Site 2 Wilmington...

Yep somehow they got transposed when the data was entered. The earliest posts I read were correct. 1 & 2 need swapped as indicated in post 10 👌

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Assuming 464.8375 to be Ch 5&6 for Site 1, Newark? I see the waveform but too far out for a reliable decode