Clatsop County Public Safety

[Comms13]

Can anyone shed some light on how the public safety channels are utilized in Clatsop. They are the one county I have never truly understood (or listened to much).

Just looking for which channels are actually used and who uses what. Along with that, I am wondering:

-Is all of CCSO ran off of the 155.790 (Law Dispatch Channel)?
-Are there still two fire tap out channels? (153.740 listed as "dispatch" in addition to South County Fire Dispatch 154.385)
-What channel is Seaside Fire dispatched on (where is the "north" vs/ "south" divided line if there are still two tap out channels)
-What about departments out Hwy 26 (Elsie-Vinemaple/Hamlet), what channel do they use?
-What is this "East Astoria Area Dispatch" channel (listed as Sky Tac)..... what is this used for and who uses it?

 

[radiotweester]

I've got no explanations, but this is what my zone has. Inputs and tones are removed.
CCSO N and S have different inputs.

 

[Comms13]

I've got no explanations, but this is what my zone has. Inputs and tones are removed.
CCSO N and S have different inputs.

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Is that pulled from a public safety radio? CCSO having same freq with different inputs makes sense.
Now I’m wondering if they really only run two repeaters (this would be shocking) or if it’s a “north” and “south” simulcast system with the same output.

 

[Comms13]

I wouldn't say CCSO is running 2 repeaters. They are simulcast, so all there sites are tied to each other. I'm not sure, but it would make sense they have north and south simulcast.

I feel like that was what I typed… was looking for someone who is more familiar with their system to verify that.

 

[Baker845]

looking at there frequency list, i don't think its simulcast. They might be using a voted system. the strong signal will be heard on the closest radio site. I listen to them on line, there system doesn't sound like a simulcast system.

 

[JB]

South Clatsop County Communications​

Seaside 9-1-1 serves all of south Clatsop County and east up Highway 26 to Saddle Mountain. If you live in Hamlet, Arch Cape, Cannon Beach, Seaside, Gearhart and the south end of Warrenton, we will answer your phone call. We dispatch calls for police and fire, though your medical calls are transferred to Medix Ambulance Service.

 

[radiotweester]

***I need to make a correction - CCSO 1 Outputs AND Inputs are the same with different tones.
Also this list is NOT confirmed as the most current and should not be submitted to the database.

 

[Comms13]

South Clatsop County Communications​

Seaside 9-1-1 serves all of south Clatsop County and east up Highway 26 to Saddle Mountain. If you live in Hamlet, Arch Cape, Cannon Beach, Seaside, Gearhart and the south end of Warrenton, we will answer your phone call. We dispatch calls for police and fire, though your medical calls are transferred to Medix Ambulance Service.

I knew the differences in the PSAP’s. Was mainly curious about how all the channels are divided up and who uses which channel (users)

 

[cinsu]

SO and Fire each have upwards of 5 repeaters, Megler, 101 and Cathlamet are the ones I remember off the top of my head. They are all the same output frequency and PL with the same input, different PL. All you really need is the one output that is accurate in the database.

Fire Green is used by Seaside and Cannon Beach and is usually where they are toned out

As far as a listener everything is accurate in the database.

 

[Comms13]

Still looking for some clarifications on what all the channels mean and which agencies work on which channels…
For example:
Is there really 3 different “fire dispatch channels” (north, south, and sky tac??)

Also, which channels to the agencies along Hwy 26 work off of? Would be nice if this was more clear on the database page or at least some additional clarification/channel reference in the wiki page.

 

[Baker845]

Best way to find out, is take trip there if you can, not sure anyone can answer what you asking. Last time I asked for little bet of info about Clatsop county there wasn't a lot feed back.

 

[Comms13]

Best way to find out, is take trip there if you can, not sure anyone can answer what you asking. Last time I asked for little bet of info about Clatsop county there wasn't a lot feed back.

There are plenty of people who know the answer to this (scanner gurus, public safety employees, etc.). Just needing the right person to stumble upon this thread. I drive thru Clatsop county all the time and grew up 10 mins from the county line, but I don’t remember which agencies worked off of which channels.

“Taking a trip” to the more rural areas just to get this answer isn't really a practical response.. especially when some of these agencies/geographic areas may not see a single call for service within any given day.

 

[jeremym70]

Skytac seems to be assigned to medical/accidents in North County, it's not a dispatch channel rather an operations channel. I beleive all fire agencies along Highway 26 would be assigned to use South Dispatch, Seaside, Green, (154.385) or whatever else it's called these days. That would also cover Cannon Beach, Arch Cape, Seaside, maybe Gearhart? North Dispatch or Orange (153.740 would cover Astoria and the Highway 30 communities heading east towards Columbia County. Then you have a few other single site repeaters that seem to be used for operational use like Purple, Blue and Skytac which I think are all used North County. South County uses more of the simplex channels for operations. I was down in Seaside a few weeks back and that's what I heard at least.

 

[noderaser]

CCSO switched to Simulcast around two years ago. LE for the rest of the county is split up into North (Astoria, Warrenton) and South (Gearhart, Seaside, Canon Beach) frequencies.

 

[Comms13]

Thanks everyone! One last question... I was given info that almost all tap outs for Astoria dispatch are done on SkyTac. Is that true for all fire dispatching for the agencies Astoria dispatches for? Radio Reference database has a "North County Fire Dispatch" channel in addition to SkyTac. So which one is the actual tap out channel...

 

[tlemke940]

last time i was in the area ( earlier this year ) they are not running a simulcast system they are what i would call a site select system ( not shure the correct term). by what i could see is they have multiple sites with the same tx and rx on each site, each site is transmitting the same pl tone but each site has a different rx tone from field units depending on the site they are trying to use. if it was a simulcast system it would have the same tx and rx frequency and tones for each site and anytime a field unit would talk it would light up the whole system every time. i was not seeing that out there essentially each site acts as its own repeater by what i seen so if you are trying to program your scanner just put in the one rx frequency and tone. now just keep in mind this is only my observations.

 

[Baker845]

The system is likely Simulcast, but if its not, they use what is called a voting system. But looking at my updated list, looks to be a Simulcast system.

 

[tlemke940]

odd because it dose not seem to act like any simulcast system i have ever seen but hay what do i know i was only reporting what i seen.

 

[Baker845]

Fire dispatch could be Simulcast. There only one repeater listed, and SO there are 2 repeaters listed, so SO may be a voted system.

 

[Comms13]

Fire dispatch could be Simulcast. There only one repeater listed, and SO there are 2 repeaters listed, so SO may be a voted system.

Just because one repeater is listed, doesn’t mean it’s simulcast. Most of this data comes from scanner listeners. It could very well be a “site select” sort of system like @tlemke940 mentioned where they manually pick repeaters as they move through the county. The county to the south is set up exactly like this as well (only one freq but non simulcast and differing by PL tones for standalone repeater operations).

Based on previous replies, I’m assuming you’re not from this particular county… so basing your replies on what’s in the RR database when someone is asking for some more detailed answers is sort of pointless… I’m lookin at the same info you are 👍