Cleveland National Forest New Forest Net

[ecps92]

Before the USFS [Public] on-line repeater map got disabled, I was able to download [KML - Google Earth] the Repeater sites
if anyone thinks this might be of value, I can upload it.

 

[Teotwaki]

Before the USFS [Public] on-line repeater map got disabled, I was able to download [KML - Google Earth] the Repeater sites
if anyone thinks this might be of value, I can upload it.

That would be great information to have! Please do share.

 

[silverspy]

That would be spectacular!

 

[ecps92]

Thought I had the file at work... but can't find it, will upload from home later

That would be great information to have! Please do share.

 

[ecps92]

Let us see how well this uploads as a zip file
For those who do not have it, you will need Google Earth

Thought I had the file at work... but can't find it, will upload from home later

 

[zz0468]

Interesting that there's nothing visible at Sitton Peak.

 

[krazybob]

Let us see how well this uploads as a zip file
For those who do not have it, you will need Google Earth

I have Google Earth installed and your file is not recognized. If it matters, I'm on my cell phone. They're so powerful these days I seldom use my desktop.

 

[Teotwaki]

Interesting that there's nothing visible at Sitton Peak.

It is a 10 mile round trip hike from Ortega Highway to the geographic feature called Sitton Peak

This may be another "Pine Cove". Just today I heard a number of CNF 300 series engines identifying using Tone 12 which is supposed to be what CNF calls "Sitton Peak" in their tone plan.

There is a radio site above Blue Jay campground that has a single tower with antennas.

33°39'12.3"N 117°26'44.6"W

It is about 5 miles north of Sitton Peak

 

[krazybob]

To get this to work on your Android cell phone there's a three-step process.

1. Extract the zip file provided.
2. Start Google Earth for Android and go to my places.
3. Import the kmz file.

I already have these sites in my sight propagation and virtual mapping software but it's sure nice to have handy on a cell phone.

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[krazybob]

For those interested, this is the 5-watt HT coverage plotted from the peak located at 33.842167 , -116.824133. The peak has some coverage but the issue of course is the ability to copy units down at the bottom of a canyon.

 

[krazybob]

For those interested, this is the 5-watt HT coverage plotted from the peak located at 33.842167 , -116.824133. The peak has some coverage but the issue of course is the ability to copy units down at the bottom of a canyon.

Sheez. Editing at its best. NOT! This is Ranger Peak and shows why the San Jacinto Mountain Range has multiple sites used by the Forest Service.

 

[zz0468]

The coordinates you posted correspond to a site called "Ortega" in the KMZ file posted earlier, so I'm not sure what's what. The actual "Sitton Peak" is obviously not the location of the CNF repeater.

The "Ortega" site is, I believe, a Riverside County PSEC site. The curious thing is, the KMZ file shows both Ortega and Sitton.

It is a 10 mile round trip hike from Ortega Highway to the geographic feature called Sitton Peak

This may be another "Pine Cove". Just today I heard a number of CNF 300 series engines identifying using Tone 12 which is supposed to be what CNF calls "Sitton Peak" in their tone plan.

There is a radio site above Blue Jay campground that has a single tower with antennas.

33°39'12.3"N 117°26'44.6"W

It is about 5 miles north of Sitton Peak

 

[Teotwaki]

The coordinates you posted correspond to a site called "Ortega" in the KMZ file posted earlier, so I'm not sure what's what. The actual "Sitton Peak" is obviously not the location of the CNF repeater.

The "Ortega" site is, I believe, a Riverside County PSEC site. The curious thing is, the KMZ file shows both Ortega and Sitton.

Very interesting! At my house I can receive very well stations that select the "Sitton Peak" tone. I've tried scanning around the satellite image of the area to see if I can spot anything but maybe I'll go out along Ortega Highway with a beam and do a little RDF'ing if the riddle is not solved in the next few days.

 

[Teotwaki]

The coordinates you posted correspond to a site called "Ortega" in the KMZ file posted earlier, so I'm not sure what's what. The actual "Sitton Peak" is obviously not the location of the CNF repeater.

The "Ortega" site is, I believe, a Riverside County PSEC site. The curious thing is, the KMZ file shows both Ortega and Sitton.

In a search for info on Sitton Peak I found a 2009 USFS initial planning blurb or "Proposed Action" for a repeater

Schedule Of Proposed Action - 01/01/2009 to 03/31/2009 - Cleveland National Forest

Description: The Forest proposes to install a Forest Service radio repeater at Sitton Peak T7S, R5W, Sec 6.
Location: UNIT - Trabuco Ranger District. STATE - California. COUNTY - Riverside. LEGAL - T7S, R5W, Sec 6. Sitton Peak.

The legal description translates to:

Section S6 T7S R5W
Meridian San Bernardino
State California
County Riverside
COMTRS 33S07S05W06

Centroid33.5881397, -117.4417639
Corners
NW33.5979233, -117.4503469
NE33.5982286, -117.4332031
SE33.5783012, -117.4330961
SW33.5781941, -117.4504689


The centroid shows something rectangular along the hiking trail but I don't think it is a repeater as I would expect some solar panels.

33°35'17.6"N 117°26'29.9"W

In the image there is something white and sort of pole shaped down and left about 40 feet away

 

[krazybob]

Ortega, otherwise known as Blue Jay. 156.7.

 

[krazybob]

Ortega has a 500 gallon propane tank. That might suggest why there are no solar panels. Just a thought.

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[zz0468]

That could possibly be it. Federal agencies are known to put small solar powered repeaters up to get coverage where it's needed. Helicopter only access, mule access, etc. aren't unheard of.

In a search for info on Sitton Peak I found a 2009 USFS initial planning blurb or "Proposed Action" for a repeater

The centroid shows something rectangular along the hiking trail but I don't think it is a repeater as I would expect some solar panels.

33°35'17.6"N 117°26'29.9"W

 

[zz0468]

That thing in the road just north of the tank looks like a ground mounted transformer protected with bollards. Power in sensitive areas is frequently brought in under an existing or new road.

Pretty sure that's a PSEC site.

Ortega has a 500 gallon propane tank. That might suggest why there are no solar panels. Just a thought.

 

[Teotwaki]

Ortega has a 500 gallon propane tank. That might suggest why there are no solar panels. Just a thought.

I was very specifically referring to the Sitton Peak locale as noted in my post, not the site by Blue Jay campground. I have driven to the one by Blue Jay which has commercial power.

 

[ecps92]

Try this in Google Earth, looks like there is buildings and antennas [more to the west of your location]
Lat 33.587222
Lon -117.446111

Had to get close as it looks like Foot/Mule only access

Interesting that there's nothing visible at Sitton Peak.

In a search for info on Sitton Peak I found a 2009 USFS initial planning blurb or "Proposed Action" for a repeater

Schedule Of Proposed Action - 01/01/2009 to 03/31/2009 - Cleveland National Forest

Description: The Forest proposes to install a Forest Service radio repeater at Sitton Peak T7S, R5W, Sec 6.
Location: UNIT - Trabuco Ranger District. STATE - California. COUNTY - Riverside. LEGAL - T7S, R5W, Sec 6. Sitton Peak.

The legal description translates to:

Section S6 T7S R5W
Meridian San Bernardino
State California
County Riverside
COMTRS 33S07S05W06

Centroid33.5881397, -117.4417639
Corners
NW33.5979233, -117.4503469
NE33.5982286, -117.4332031
SE33.5783012, -117.4330961
SW33.5781941, -117.4504689


The centroid shows something rectangular along the hiking trail but I don't think it is a repeater as I would expect some solar panels.

33°35'17.6"N 117°26'29.9"W

In the image there is something white and sort of pole shaped down and left about 40 feet away